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I understand your frustration. It seems to me that sometimes I rule things out like that for exactly the reasons you did (though in this case, E clearly is stronger than D and if you had read it you probably would have noticed that) but other  times, the minutest details they will say is important. So imo they waffle on that, but hopefully with doing a lot of preptests you discover what they consistantly feel is a reasonable assumption and what is an important, though minor, distinction

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Write now or wait until October?
« on: June 10, 2008, 09:49:56 PM »
Thanks LSATHell. I'm familiar with those things, I've done both the Bibles, Testmasters weekend course, and Super Prep and probably about 10 prep tests so I know how to recognize those things, but as you say, you know them inside and out. My biggest problem, which I'm working to overcome with pure prephrasing, is that I get bogged down between 2 potential answer choices or else I miss a crucial word ie civilization v. culture, and pick a shell game answer. Sometimes it seems the LSAT is insanely picky about the tiniest details, and then other times, I rule out an answer based on what I perceive to be a slight inaccuracy and it turns out to be the correct answer. This is where I think doing a lot of prep tests would probably help as you get a feel for what the LSAT makers perceive to be an irrelevant tiny detail and an important tiny detail. As for RC, whatever. I'm annoyed that I don't do better on that section consider on my ACTs I got a perfect score in that area, but of course, that's comparing a granny smith apple to a red delicious. If you don't mind my asking - how many were you originally getting wrong with LR before you were able to whittle down to -1?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Write now or wait until October?
« on: June 10, 2008, 07:35:49 PM »
Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it. Where I'm at now, if I can't crack 168 by the end of the week, then I'll just plain reschedule. If I can, and it's not a complete fluke, then I'll write and if I can't execute on the LG games, I'll know to cancel my score.

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Studying for the LSAT / Write now or wait until October?
« on: June 10, 2008, 01:32:07 AM »
Wow original title  ::) Anyway, I know there are lots of people ask, and you can't give a definitive answer, but as this board is for those who know the test the best, I'm soliciting your opinion of what you'd do in my shoes. Obviously am scheduled to write the test next Monday. I've had a busy schedule this summer with coursework so I can graduate early (this is not an excuse) so that coupled with some poor time management I haven't been able to devote as much time as I'd like. Anyway, I'm not sure whether it's better to write the test on Monday, see how I do, and then leave October as a rewrite backup or perhaps hold off for October all together. Right now I'm scoring in and around the mid-160's. I know I can do better but for some reason my LR is killing me. Games, no problem, I can get a perfect score or -1. LR varies from getting only 3 wrong to getting 10 wrong! On the same test! I have no idea how this is possible or if it's just my stress over the section. RC I usually get about 4 wrong. My gpa....I think it's about a 3.7 or so ? I have a 84 average at a top canadian university. Anything above an 80 is considered an A so I'm halfway between an A and a A+ for what it's worth. So of course, this is one of my easiest weeks course wise and I expect to be able to do more practice tests, but looking at my situation would it be better to wait it out until October and I have a little bit more time to get more assured or write it, see how it goes, and assess from there? Sorry for longwindedness. I have looked at the numbers on lawschoolnumbers for people who wrote multiples but I'm not getting a clear idea.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Prep 50 LR QUESTION (Section 2-13)
« on: June 10, 2008, 12:41:38 AM »
Alright, I'll have a crack at it. Anyway, my reasoning with this question, is that it says chemical companies were able to remove CFC before the mandated deadline USUALLY (of course not always) at a profit. This means, if you don't hurt the profits significantly more than chemical companies, well they usually MAKE a profit on removing CFC's, so fossil fuel companies would probably not make money, but they probably wouldn't lose it. Anyway, this might not be the correct reasoning but it's how I arrived at the answer.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: LG And/Or rules
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:41:22 PM »
ah, okay. Thanks. I know that's a pretty basic construct but yeah, thanks for spelling it out for me!  ;D

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: LG And/Or rules
« on: June 08, 2008, 11:21:25 PM »
ah I didn't realize a not condition would negate the 'and', that was my problem. I'm relieved that's one of the most difficult grouping games. I guess that would also explain the neither/nor thing. Neither would negate the 'nor' aspect making it an 'and'? Is this right?  ???

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Updated Logic Games Bible?
« on: June 08, 2008, 07:43:06 PM »
Um, I wouldn't. Unless they take all the mistakes out. I noticed several when I was going through them (I don't just mean errors of reasoning but actual spelling errors and the such). I think all the basics are pretty much in there. I doubt they will have a new technique that will help anything. Have you tried looking at other sources like SuperPrep maybe if you are still having trouble? I think the best thing about the LG Bible is teaching you setups, from there, it's just execution. It's hard to improve on that but that's just my two cents.

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Studying for the LSAT / LG And/Or rules
« on: June 08, 2008, 05:06:36 PM »
Hi, I know I'm a new poster, but I've been really appreciative of all the info in this thread for LSAT prep. I just have a question/problem.  Normally, LG are not problem but occasionally I'm becoming confused about when to use an 'and' and when to use  an 'or'. I recognize this is a pretty basic english grammar skill but anyway...

for example, in LSAT super prep, test prep B, in the second game there is a rule that deals with and/or. I don't think I'm allowed to post the rule though so anyway.....

I had originally diagrammed this as (no L) AND (no O) then it must contain F AND S. The answer has it as (no L) OR (no o) then it must....

why it is an 'or' and not an 'and'? I also have this problem with 'nor'. For example if it said, If the park contains neither L nor O, then it contains F and S. I get confused if I should diagram that as (no L) or (no O), or, (no L) and (no O).

Apologies for lack of ability in being able to diagram this properly but I hope someone understands what I'm talking about and is able to help, or can redirect me!

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