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General Off-Topic Board / Re: California Gay Marriage
« on: June 06, 2008, 12:00:41 PM »
I find this thread extremely troubling.  While I don't appreciate Jack24's defensive ramblings about taxation as a valid reason to ban gay marriage, I'm surprised at how angry so many of you seem to be about the issue.

So what if you feel that it is morally correct to give all people the same marital rights?  A huge portion of the population in this country have been taught from birth that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman.  What if a person believes in a religion that teaches its' members that homosexuality is a sin?  If you insult those beliefs then you are basically insulting their religion.  You are basically saying that your moral foundation is superior to theirs.   Isn't that the same thing that you are accusing them of? A sort of moral superiority?
Many of you also believe that we need to protect homosexual rights as if they are some sort of racial minority. Do you believe that voting against same-sex marriage makes you some sort of bigot? You can quibble about marital rights, but don't be so ignorant to assume that the way you choose to behave sexually is comparable to your natural ethnicity.
I appreciate the zeal in defense of your moral authority, but please remember that many people hold these beliefs very close to their hearts.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: LSD: I challenge you to improve
« on: June 06, 2008, 10:56:05 AM »
OP is a retarded feminine hygiene product.


General Off-Topic Board / Re: LSD: I challenge you to improve
« on: June 06, 2008, 10:46:47 AM »

Its still an internet forum, and if you were to compare it to TLS, JDU, XOXO, etc you would find it an extremely positive environment.

Edit: and very well moderated

You do make a great point about the moderation, but true improvement comes from self-examination rather than out of a comparison to more negative alternatives.

General Off-Topic Board / LSD: I challenge you to improve
« on: June 06, 2008, 10:29:49 AM »
I used this board a couple years ago to get information about how to do well on the LSAT and which schools to apply to.  I found it to be a fantastic resource.  I've been away for a while busting my butt in 1L.
This board provides so much good information for prospective law students but it is completely inundated with abhorrent amounts of vulgarity, discourtesy and cowardice.  Many of you should be ashamed of yourselves.  You hide behind your digital anonymity.  You are recreant cowards of the internet age.  I hope that the disrespect shown on this website will not infect your conduct in the real world.  I find it absolutely nauseating that so many of you can not deal with opinions that differ from your own.  Many of you seem to be addicted to the practice of making personal attacks rather than sharing your own thoughts in a calm and persuasive manner.  It is surprising that you so often avoid logical arguments because you believe that your opponent is not intelligent enough to truly challenge you.
Do you honestly think the real world will be any different?  Do you believe your clients will all be exceptionally intelligent?  Do you think your opponents will all follow the same logical thought process that you're so accustomed to?  Are you going to throw a tantrum and spew vulgarity every time you encounter ignorance or arrogance?  It is apparent from this website that many of you are completely unable to educate someone who does not agree with you.  That awful character trait will not serve you well in the future.  I challenge you to return to the practices of civility and propriety.  I challenge you to contrast your beliefs with others in a way that would make your mothers proud.


Wait, you don't know what "works for you"? Wow, what did you do in undergrad?

What did I do in undergrad?  I paid attention in class when I wasn't texting or doing homework for another class and crammed the last two weeks of the semester.  I never had to do any reading outside of class and I managed to finish the majority of my required papers on my laptop during easy classes.

I finished my degree with a 3.74

So do you think that strategy would have worked for me in law school?  Maybe I should have tried it for 1L, but I worked really hard instead.

Current Law Students / Re: Utter demoralization.
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:49:47 AM »
When grades came out, I got my class rank of 33/294.  Not too shabby, just outside of the top 10%. 
Well, the bummer part of that is that my school grades-on the top 10% to law review.  And I'd missed by four.

Today, I was chatting with my friend.  Turns out she finished #32.  One ahead of me, and they graded her on.  So, instead of missing by four, I missed by one.  A fraction of a point separated our grades.

To be honest, I am glad they took it down to 32 because I'm glad that my friend graded on.

But as the old line goes, I'm happy for you, I'd rather be happy for me. 

I'm sorry about your bad luck Steve, but at least you might have some extra time to network and use other methods to increase your chances at landing a great job.   While I believe Law Review to be completely worthwhile, it is important to remember that free time can be extremely valuable.

I like this thread.

I think the most important thing for everyone to remember is that law students rarely know what works for them until they are in the middle of the semester.
You may get great advice about outlines, study schedules, study groups, and flash cards etc.  But you might find after a few months of law school that you need a different type of outline, a flexible study schedule, no study group and at, and that flash cards don't help you personally.

Additionally, almost any T3 will probably give you a full ride and virtually all T4 schools will probably do the same plus a stipend.

Stay away from T3 schools. 

I understand that finance is a very tough major, especially if you were in a strong program.  It is true that Ad-Coms might take your junior year situation under consideration, and I wish you luck.

You have the benefit of a great LSAT, and you should probably make two decisions before you proceed:
1: Where do you want to work?   This is important because you may be able to get a fantastic scholarship at a very strong regional school.
2: How much debt is the T14 worth.   This number will be different for everyone.  Due to the weak job market, it may be in your best long-term interest to go to the school with the best job prospects reguardless of debt.

Law School Admissions / Re: Working during 1L
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:24:25 AM »
Thanks for all of the tips... I won't have a full family when I start, but I am getting married so I will have a wife (who will be working full-time) and myself.  We have discussed different options, including taking out a loan, but right now we are kind of playing things by ear and seeing how I do on the LSAT and what I get offered.

Good idea.  It is important to know how much money you need before you think about working.  Keeping a job during 1L isn't worth the trouble unless you have completely flexible hours.  I know a law student that cleans an office building.  He works about 30 minutes a night during the week and 3 hours on saturday and he gets about $1000.  He can go to the office and clean anytime between 7 PM and 7AM, so he just goes whenever he gets tired of studying.
If you are creative, I'm sure you would be able to find something that wouldn't cause a significant amount of stress.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: worth retaking?
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:17:05 AM »
Here's another factor to consider.  While we all know that many lawyers are looking to make a jump to other occupations as soon as it becomes feasable, law schools want their applicants to want to be lawyers.  I think, the fact that you took the LSAT and then decided to hang around for a couple of years before applying conveys an image of someone who is not 100% devoted to the legal profession.

I, personally, see nothing wrong with that.  I know that your experience will serve you well in life, before and after law school, but it may negatively influence the admission committee when they decide between you and another applicant with the same numbers.

I'm afraid this seems to be true.  It seems to me like most admissions committees don't give you too many points for work experience, and in many cases it does seem to negatively effect the chances of the applicant.

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