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General Board / Should Law Schools ban Computers in the Classroom?
« on: April 14, 2010, 10:37:03 AM »
This law student and former marketing professor seems to think computers are a bad idea in law schools. 
Is it the students responsibility to pay attention, or does the teacher have a duty to command student's attention?


http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/a_marketing_prof_tries_law_school_encounters_stress_level_that_is_scarily_h/

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General Board / Diminishing Returns in Law School
« on: April 12, 2010, 02:44:51 PM »
I was on Law Review Staff and on the Law Review Board, so I've worked with some amazing law students.   I've always been around the top third in my class, and I got on Law Review either because I am a good writer, or I'm just lucky.
I also hang out with a bunch of students who are ranked around the middle of the class.

I feel like I have a good understanding of what it takes to be in the top half, top third, and top ten percent of the class. 

Granted, the top 4 or 5 students might just be smarter than everyone else, but I think work (both hard work and smart work) makes all the difference.

Think of law school as a speeding car.   It takes a certain amount of power to maintain 50 mph for a period of time.  How much more power do you think it takes to maintain 100 mph for the same period of time?  Twice as much?  Much more. Probably 4 or 5 times as much. 

For example
50MPH in a standard SUV probably requires around 20 horsepower.
100 MPH probably requires around 100 horsepower.

So the faster you go, the more horsepower per MPH you need.

As you go up the rankings in law school, the more effort per ranking spot you need.

Let's say you are ranked 75/150 and you maintain that ranking by studying an average of 10 hours a week. (doable)
To be ranked 50/150, you probably would have to jump up to an average of 20 hours a week.
To be ranked 25/150 (Twice as many spots)  You probably have to jump up to 50 hours a week.

This is caused by the bell curve that most law schools use.  It's like a distance cycling race where everyone is huddled in a pack, and when someone breaks away some people chase them, and some people conserve their energy and stay in the pack.  At the end of the race there are usually a few crazy people who are out front, followed by a small chase group a few minutes behind, and then slowly the groups get larger and larger.

At some point, most students realize that they can't keep up with the leaders, and that ranking 50/150 is just not worth twice the effort of ranking 75/150.

This psychology probably means that if you basically kill yourself all year long, You are almost guaranteed a spot in the top 25% of the class.  (Granted, the first 1L semester is full of flukes and anomalies, but my theory holds true in the long run)

Law school is littered with people like me who fall comfortably close to the middle as soon as they realize they can't quite get into that top ten percent.

Next question, for whoever wants to answer it, is whether ranking 50/150 instead of 75/150 will even help you get a job?






 


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General Off-Topic Board / Ready for College at 17 years old?
« on: February 17, 2010, 11:31:18 AM »
Some Utah senators are proposing a bill that eliminates the 12th grade (or makes it optional)
The proposal will supposedly save the state 60 million dollars.

Thoughts?

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General Off-Topic Board / We must return to traditional values.
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:32:45 PM »
Future Lawyers: Protect this country!
- Preserve the constitution.
- Maintain the limits on the federal government
- Teach your children to be patriotic and proud of this country.
- Stop the assault on religion.
- Protect traditional marriage.
- Encourage innovation through incentives and competition.
- Don't allow socialism to gain traction.
- Stop the endless flow of easily accessible pornography.
- Spend more time with your family and less time at work.

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General Off-Topic Board / LSD: I challenge you to improve
« on: June 06, 2008, 01:29:49 PM »
I used this board a couple years ago to get information about how to do well on the LSAT and which schools to apply to.  I found it to be a fantastic resource.  I've been away for a while busting my butt in 1L.
This board provides so much good information for prospective law students but it is completely inundated with abhorrent amounts of vulgarity, discourtesy and cowardice.  Many of you should be ashamed of yourselves.  You hide behind your digital anonymity.  You are recreant cowards of the internet age.  I hope that the disrespect shown on this website will not infect your conduct in the real world.  I find it absolutely nauseating that so many of you can not deal with opinions that differ from your own.  Many of you seem to be addicted to the practice of making personal attacks rather than sharing your own thoughts in a calm and persuasive manner.  It is surprising that you so often avoid logical arguments because you believe that your opponent is not intelligent enough to truly challenge you.
Do you honestly think the real world will be any different?  Do you believe your clients will all be exceptionally intelligent?  Do you think your opponents will all follow the same logical thought process that you're so accustomed to?  Are you going to throw a tantrum and spew vulgarity every time you encounter ignorance or arrogance?  It is apparent from this website that many of you are completely unable to educate someone who does not agree with you.  That awful character trait will not serve you well in the future.  I challenge you to return to the practices of civility and propriety.  I challenge you to contrast your beliefs with others in a way that would make your mothers proud.



 

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