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Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
« on: May 04, 2009, 06:29:51 AM »
either or

Just out of curiosity, what makes you want to be a criminal attorney if you don't know what side you want to be on?  I'm not knocking that decision either way... just curious.  After all, one side of the fence, you are trying to defend people, and the other side, you are trying to fry (figuratively speaking) those same people.  Does criminal law, in general, just interest you?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
« on: May 04, 2009, 04:17:39 AM »
Swampfox- helpful comments.  My wife and I visited, and those apartments seemed very nice.

As far as what I hope to practice, I'm trying to go in with an open mind... I would like to get a job with a decent-sized firm within the city, and eventually perhaps do corporate litigation.  However, I'm going to see where things lead me and see what really interests me.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: PREPPING FOR 1L -- HELP
« on: April 29, 2009, 10:02:23 AM »
Lovebutton- thanks for all of the insight... your comments are some of the most helpful I've read on this site.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
« on: April 29, 2009, 09:37:38 AM »
Speaking of apartments, my wife and I have found some pretty awesome apartments about 4 miles away from campus.  They are called The Village Apartments, and really seem very nice for the price.  Not exactly within walking distance, but they are worth checking out.

Job Search / Interesting analogy, re: summer jobs
« on: April 29, 2009, 06:23:02 AM »
One of my former professors, who is also an attorney, wrote a LOC for me.  The other day, I sent him an e-mail just catching up and asking for advice, and he sent a response that (I thought) was full of valuable information.  One of the things he wrote about was an analogy between summer associate positions and picks in sports drafts- I just thought I'd share for those interested.

Knowing a little bit now about how firms hire, at my old firm years ago, we'd always ask ourselves, for example, why someone from such and such a place would want to come settle in CITY X.  If we couldn't figure out a reason, then we wouldn't bother to interview them.  It's the same reason why teams have to think twice about trading away quality young players or draft picks for a player that they know they can't sign to come back for next year.  The mega firms might have lots of clerkships, but the smaller firms just have one or two.  We can't blow them on people who will work for a summer then seek permanent employment elsewhere.  We'd really have to be in a must-win pennant race in terms of needing top-notch clerk work now to justify hiring a summer associate who was headed to different places later.       

Maybe various people have already made this same comparison, but I thought it was a worthwhile insight from someone who would know what they were talking about.  It underscores the importance of emphasizing why you want to work for a firm when going through the application process.

Job Search / Re: Any reason not to do this?
« on: April 22, 2009, 07:33:26 PM »
Thanks for all of the input... I work at a bank job that gets pretty slow at times.  Cover letters are a good thing because they look like I am doing something professional (as opposed to  :D

Job Search / Any reason not to do this?
« on: April 22, 2009, 09:23:52 AM »
I am getting ready to begin law school this coming August.  While I would like to prepare for law school this summer, I have been told various times by various people that there isn't a lot you can do (re: reading cases, etc.).  Instead, I am thinking about going ahead and researching the firms that I would like to work for during my 1L summer, and type up cover letters and resumes for them.  The law school I am attending states that 1Ls can't send out letters to potential employers until Nov. 1st. If I went ahead and got this stuff ready, I could go ahead and send it off on that date and have one less thing to worry about.

Is this a good idea, or am I thinking way too far in advance?  Is there any reason to think that my resume would be drastically different in August than it would in November?  Any input would be helpful.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The Official I'm Going to X School Thread
« on: April 22, 2009, 06:33:11 AM »
University of Kentucky

Kentucky offers the Ashland scholarship for in-state students... totals $17,000 a year.  Only one is offered annually.  Current in-state tuition is something like $13,500. 

To maintain, you have to stay in good standing (2.0 GPA or higher).

Thanks!  According to KY's website, the scholarship is now at $15K (or their website is out of date).  The ABA indicates resident tuition is about $14K, so I estimated a stipend amount of $1K.

Website is out of date.. I noticed that, too.  However, I can say with certainty that the scholly (at least for me, anyway) is currently $17k.

By the way, this thread was a good idea... it may help a lot of people in the future.

Realistically, would you be willing to work the next 5 or more years of your life in the location of the school?  If the answer is anything less than an absolute yes, I would strongly advise against going to the school.

The tone of your post makes it sound like you are trying to justify to yourself something that you feel would be a mistake.  You implied that you are capable of getting a higher LSAT score... if you scored higher, would you be able to leverage that into a higher scholarship into the school you have been accepted to (next year of course)?  Would you be able to get into a school you feel is more desirable?  These are some questions you need to ask yourself.

You mentioned various times that you don't want to get a job in big law or politics... however, a law degree is not a golden ticket that guarantees a job at all.  Before attending a school that you are not fully comfortable with, you need to weigh all of the options.

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