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That depends- who is your favorite author?  ;)


They say that you can't really prepare for law school.  That being said, I really enjoyed Law School Confidential, Lawyer Boy,and Barman: Ping Pong, Pathos, and Passing the Bar.  I hated Planet Law School II.

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Life as a Summer Associate
« on: May 28, 2009, 09:13:15 AM »
I stumbled across this thread, and I think it is a really good one.  For those of you who have been through the summer associate process, could you describe it?  I understand that there is a lot of doc review and research, but what kind of hours did you keep?  How were you treated?  If offered a job, how was it offered?  How did you find out you had the summer job in the first place?  Any insight would be very helpful.

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Law School Applications / Re: first two years?
« on: May 28, 2009, 08:18:40 AM »
Picture these two scenarios:

Scenario 1: Two students have the exact same GPA (let's say a 3.00).  Student A has consistently demonstrated this GPA... his average semester has about 3-4 Bs and 1-2 As and Cs.  Student B was a slower starter.  His first couple of years, he got mostly Cs, the occasional B, and the occasional D.  After realizing his "purpose in life", he kicks things into gear and makes straight As for his remaining two years.  His final GPA is a 3.00.  If you are a college admissions officer, which do you pick?

Scenario 2: Student B, from the earlier example is applying to another school as well.  His competitor is Student C, an all-around excellent student.  Student C has been consistent throughout college, and his GPA is a 3.8.  Student B's GPA is still a 3.00.  Who do you pick now?


I wrote all of that to demonstrate that the story behind your GPA counts... if you are competiting against someone with similar numbers.  However, a college is going to look out for its best interests, which entails picking the higher numbers.

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Law School Applications / Re: Am I Wasting My Time???
« on: May 26, 2009, 12:11:11 PM »
There is an awesome personal statement in that story just waiting to get out... I will agree with the other responses that you will get into some schools.  Just make sure before you matriculate that you will pass the character fitness test.  Good luck!

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If you score a 175 with a 3.8 GPA, the world is at your fingertips... no school would be out of your reach.  Just don't fall into the trap of assuming you will ace the LSAT.  The odds of getting 175+ are next to none- even for very smart people.  Just do the best you can, and if you come anywhere close to what you are expecting, you will be in excellent shape, wherever you apply.

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Flame. Got it. Thanks for the, uh, "tip"-off at the end. Ba-dum-ching.

Out of curiosity, if you can answer a single question without arrogance, annoyance or derision, would you feel at all badly if I am genuinely a random person, who came upon this forum because of being uncertain about what he should do?

No... I don't suspect you would care at all actually.  Your goal is merely to increase your own narcissism at the cost of sacrificing others (though the actual sacrifice only goes as far as in your mind).

Good luck to you, if you deal with clients, students, and/or jurists even 1/10th as badly as you do here, you're likely a federal employee and resigned to a life of mediocrity  :-\

I wouldn't feel badly because for most of this thread, that's exactly what I assumed you are. And with your initial posts, you had as much empathy from me as anyone would get. Then...you started getting points deducted. And like any good French Olympic judge, I'll stand by those deductions. I prefer thinking you're a flame because it depresses me that someone like you (purport to be) could actually get through 20-odd years of life without the figurative smackdown you so richly deserve.

Also, you are a seriously terrible writer: "Your goal is merely to increase your own narcissism at the cost of sacrificing others (though the actual sacrifice only goes as far as in your mind)." ...What? What does that even mean? Is that in English? How does one have a goal to increase one's narcissism at the cost of sacrificing others? Do I have an altar I sacrifice them on? Narcissism isn't something we understand as people trying to increase--people are narcissistic, which leads them do certain things, but it doesn't connote a goal in and of itself. This is not because I disagree with your point, note; it's because you're using the words in a, uh, highly non-standard way. Again, I do not think these words mean what you think they mean when strung together in this order. Earlier, you called my posts "banter," which again shows that you're not familiar with connotations of words. "Banter" implies congeniality/friendliness, perhaps even flirtatiousness. You don't use it to describe (what you clearly perceive as) someone attacking you.

So. My prescription, actually, in the spirit of presuming that you're an actual person, is that you need to work on your writing. Smaller words--fewer syllables, fewer SAT words, etc. More Hemingway, less Faulkner, as I always say. That and LSN will probably help you more than strangers on the internet fawning over your LSAT score.

dashrashi- I am sure you recognize the irony and humor in the bolded part of your post.  A bunch of strangers on the internet fawning over someone else's score aren't nearly as helpful as a bunch of strangers on the internet fawning over their own scores.   ;)

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Here's the thing... we aren't admissions officers.  So, when you ask us what your chances are, the only real thing we can do is draw from our own experiences and the experiences of others.  That is what LSN is for... rather than guess what admissions people would do for your situation, we can see what they have done in similar situations.

Your tone suggests that you expect us to be blown away with your accomplishments.  What you have to understand is that there are a lot of people on this board that have achieved a lot of amazing things.  If you would change the tone of your posts, you would get more helpful responses.  With that said, LSN will help you a great deal in determining where you stand.

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I think we have all been too hard on Technologic, and, because of our natural inclination to resist brilliance, we have considered his perfection unobtainable.  All hail Technologic and his wonderful LSAT score.  He will surely defy the odds and emerge from a top 5 law school with a perfect GPA.  He will then go on to become the first Supreme Court Justice that both conservatives and liberals can agree upon... in short, he will be the savior of the universe.  ::)

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It doesn't matter if you went to a Top 10 UG.  There are a lot of people who went to Top 10 UGs that have 3.0+ GPAs from which schools would likely choose in the application process.  I don't think it would be worth your money to apply to schools in the T-14 other than Michigan, Northwestern, and Georgetown.  Just my opinion.

Duke and Vanderbilt appear to be strong possibilities, however I don't intend to limit my options.  I'm a mere 2 LSAT points away from someone who was accepted into Harvard last year (assuming that chart is accurate, which by my guess it is self reported).

Of the dozen or so people from my undergraduate planning to attend law school, all with better GPAs than me (many with a full point or more higher), none of them were within 10 points of my LSAT.

It's possible I could have the application fee waived for many schools.

As far as the bolded part, don't you think that this is a lousy representative sample?  You don't think that anyone at a top 10 University scored a 168 or higher?  Yeah... right.

To echo the sentiment of dashrashi, being verbiose doesn't make you sound eloquent.  I call flame- big time.

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To those of you from the area, what are some of the bigger-name law firms in Lexington?

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