how often is this done? i am told that with oci, law review, and classes my 1st semester is going to be hellish (i'm a rising 2L at a T20 by the way). will this help federal clerkship chances?
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« on: July 14, 2008, 05:18:34 AM »
i'm in a very similar spot: estimated top 7-8% at GW, law review, except i'd really like to go the COA --> academia route.
i think i'd goto CLS if i got in. would it be worth it to go to UVA? what about gtown?
At all the T14, except UVA interviews are NOT pre-screened. That means, at the very least you'll have the opportunity to interview with firms that do not come to your current school. Does that mean you're going to land at Wachtell if you transfer? Of course not. But there will be some increase in your choice of firms. I do know that many transfers at my school landed jobs at firms that did not even recruit at their old schools. YES, firms discount your GPA, but they still take into account that you will be a graduate from the new school.
i see. i did not know that. thanks for the insight.
not saying you are wrong, but do you have anything to back this up with? even something anecdotal? because from what i have heard, the firms at OCI treat you as a "top 10% at a T25" rather than a HLS student. in other words, i don't think the transferor will get interviews at his new school's OCI that he would not have gotten at his former school. And this is only logical - your abilities have been tested only at the T25, so why would they treat you any different?
And if you accept that argument, transferring becomes really dubious given that most people sacrifice law review.
i am at top 20 and did well, and so i am entertaining the idea of transferring. but i really just don't see the point in transferring except for the prestige factor. anyone care to enlighten me?
Above all, be yourself...but be prepared, and have a theme going in that you want to focus on. Make it something very general that everything could relate to somehow, but that doesn't come off as BS. And make sure to send detailed thank-you notes to everyone you meet expressing your enthusiasm in the position. Good luck.
even if i was to get money, would it make sense to transfer? I have no doubt that I can get a big firm job from my current school. What other advantages beside big firm job does a Boalt degree confer?
a chance to enter academia, and a COA clerkship - those are the 2 big ones. but then again those require law review (you definitely need to find out if you can get ont oa journal at boalt).
obviously don't threaten your law school. i would ask for a meeting with the dean or whoever and introduce the purpose of the meeting as a need for guidance in a career choice. tell them that you are worried about paying off your loans and a school like boalt will give you much more security in this sense just based on job placement statistics. they will probably get the hint and tell you either they have $ to give you or not. if they don't get the hint, then i guess just ask if there any possibility of $ for 2Ls.
Everyone has to take either Con Law or Civ Pro after 1L. (then you take the other that fall) That summer you need at least two more credits--most people take an externship, usually in crim justice, other gov or public interest, or with a judge, which you get two credits for doing (technically there is also a "class" that goes along with it but it meets a handful of times over the summer and doesn't require actual work). The summer grade seems to not always come up during EIW because it takes professors FOREVER to get grades in--it will probably show up on your transcript by the time fall OCI rolls around, though. But assuming you don't totally screw up the summer course, and there really isn't any reason why you would assuming you did well the first year, switching from PT to FT will, based on the experiences of my classmates anyway, have zero impact on your prospects. My 1L year I went on eleven interviews and no one even asked about it.
did you work while in part time?