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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Chicago Kent Review
« on: March 06, 2006, 10:24:31 PM »
i am interested in kent's writing programs.  writing is not one of my strengths and i would really like it to be upon graduation. 

hey tori, what did you think about the facilities?  have you visited depaul or jmls?  how do their facilities compare?

The location is great, very accessible by public transportation. They're literally a block from Union station, and also close to the CTA blue line and NW suburb Metra lines. The part time evening student on the panel said she drives in after her day job and parking isn't a problem in the evenings (tho I bet the traffic on your way there is a pain).

Everything I saw in the building seemed to be in good condition. The only other school I've seen so far is UIUC, which also has decent facilities. I thought the UIUC library was better than Kent's, but I think UIUC is supposed to have the 3rd biggest or so. There's so many resources online these days, it probably doesn't matter a whole lot either way.

I'm going to try to run by Loyola sometime soon. No plans for DePaul or JM though. I've heard terrible things about John Marshall from other people.

Oh, one other general comment about both Kent and UIUC, they said people rarely drop out for academic reasons. I think that's a good thing.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Chicago Kent Review
« on: March 06, 2006, 10:07:50 PM »
jk btw

this kind of humour probably works best in conversation because the person can nudge your shoulder after.  i think he was just pointing out that you were almost over the top serious.  i got it.  maybe it's a guy thing.   :-\

Alright, must be. I've been overseas for awhile, so I'm out of practice with picking this kind of thing up anyway.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Chicago Kent Review
« on: March 06, 2006, 10:01:54 PM »
Thanks for the writeup, Im in the process of deciding between Kent and Loyola right now, have you visited LUC yet?  I plan on attending their "discovery program" held in a couple weeks, so haven't made it out to the schools for a tour yet.  My initial feelings tell me Loyola is the more respected school in chicago, but I keep hearing about Kent slow overtaking of Loyola over the past decade so now I'm not sure.

How did Kent's IP program seem?  My B.S. was in engineering so while I'm not entirely sure what area of law I will end up liking most, patent or IP law does seem like a natural extension.  Any insight on how Loyola and Kent compare in that regard?

No, I haven't visited Loyola yet, although it's on my list of things to do. From people I've talked to, it seems like Kent and Loyola are pretty level with each other in terms of reputation in the Chicago area. The people at Kent said Loyola was better for one particular program, which Kent doesn't even offer. I think it was child or family law or something like that. I don't remember exactly.

I also received brochures from Kent about how they have been improving their rankings and becoming much more selective over the last few years. I don't know what Loyola's history has been, but I guess that sounds about right.

I can't say much on the IP law except that Kent claims they are strong in it and they do offer a certificate. I graduated engineering also, but I'm not so sure if I want to go that route.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Chicago Kent Review
« on: March 06, 2006, 09:48:41 PM »
wow, you're a total nerd who will be a T2 gunner. I feel sorry for you. Your tour guide tried to paint a picture of what it's like to go to kent, and it's not good enough for you? yeah, he made LR. yeah, he's in the top 10%. he has fun. sorry he didn't "sell it" enough for you, gunner. looks like you'll just spend every waking hour in your apartment studying who cares where you go to law school?

 ::) :-[

Whoa, you got family at Kent or something? I didn't see how that was a funny joke, but I guess I'm too nerdy to figure it out. I'm just giving my honest impressions, don't take it personally.

When I say inarticulate, I mean seriously inarticulate. "So this is... like... uh... the library. There's a lot of books and... uh... stuff. I dunno... People study here... and uh... yeah.... uh... uh..." Sorry, but if this is what their top students are like, then that's pretty bad, IMHO.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Chicago Kent Review
« on: March 05, 2006, 03:00:42 AM »
Went to a morning program which included a student panel, mini torts class (simulated), tour. I was not overly impressed. It didn't help that I started off with receiving a somewhat snotty attitude from the reception desk when I didn't respond with a hello as fast as she wanted, and also when I reached over to take a pen from the pile they had on the desk (meant for the visitors).

Kent is strong in IP, unsurprising since they are part of Illinois Institute of Technology. The mini torts class professor was good. I talked a little to the dean. Most of the program seemed pretty typical.  My tour guide, however, was incredibly inarticulate and airheaded for a 3L who supposidly made law review and is in the top of his class. I wish I could write down exactly some of the things he said - I was really startled. He was more interested in telling us about social events and parties and how he goes out to the bars every weekend (and even during the week!). He also said that law school was like high school (I felt like I was talking more with a high school student or a college freshman than a 3L), and that giving the tour was probably the 3rd time he had stepped into the library as a 3L. (WTF???)

It's hard to pin point (besides the tour guide and the girl at the desk) all the small details that, when combined, gave me a poor impression, but I visited one other school before coming to Kent and it was a completely different gut feeling. Kent seems like it is better for urban people who need to work while attending law school (i.e. part time program), or for those who just want a law degree for practical reasons (yes, I know we all want a degree for practical reasons) and don't want to devote more effort than absolutely necessary. It's not a place for the (as my tour guide would say, "nerdy") students who are concerned about learning to "think like a lawyer", maintaining top grades, etc. (FYI, he was more embarrased about how he and his classmates had nerdy conversations about law together than how often he was in the library.)

Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UIUC vs. CU
« on: February 09, 2006, 12:18:14 AM »
Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I know I will probably end up at UIUC for the logical practical reasons. (*sigh* :-[) Anyway, I'm just glad I'm going somewhere for sure. I will definitely try to visit CU anyway next month. I'll post my impressions later.

Choosing the Right Law School / UIUC vs. CU
« on: February 02, 2006, 05:25:59 PM »
Just wondering, what is the opinion on Illinois vs. Colorado?

UIUC is ranked pretty decently, and it's tough to beat the in-state tuition + scholarship offer. On the other hand, Colorado is just beautiful and great for lots of outdoors activities that I love (snowboarding, rockclimbing, hiking, etc.) I will probably end up working in Chicago (I'm from Chicago) for family reasons in the end, so I guess UIUC is probably the practical choice for a job future, but on the other hand, I want to get out of Illinois for awhile. To be honest, when I think of 3 years at UIUC, I can't help but shudder a little. (I chose to do my undergrad in Chicago instead of Urbana for that same general feeling of ick.) Law school would be a perfect excuse to spend 3 years in an area I will probably otherwise never live in.

I know I won't have much time to do anything as a 1L, and maybe it's better not to be tempted by living someplace like Colorado, but there will be those rare moments of freetime when I have to unwind and it would be so awesome to live in Boulder...

I haven't heard back from Colorado yet, but I keep thinking... if I get accepted, what would I do? I haven't visited either school yet either. I'm planning to go see both in March. If anyone has any comments or thoughts, they will be much appreciated!

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: I just wanted to say... (UMich)
« on: January 03, 2006, 02:05:33 PM »
I just wanted to add to this. I send out an email with some questions to another law school and got back a semi-smart-assed response. It really made me mad. Like, duh, no it is NOT obvious to me what the answers are, otherwise I wouldn't have send the question in the first place. Grrrr.  >:( It's such a terrible reflection on the school. Even though I know the people answering the emails don't have any relation to the professors, school quality, etc., I can't help but feel turned off about attending.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: A few last ditch apps?
« on: January 03, 2006, 01:53:44 PM »
I started out with only schools I wanted to attend, too. (I thought I was competitive at a few but they are all coming out to be reaches.) Originally, I felt like if I couldn't attend a school I really wanted to go to, I wasn't sure if I wanted to put in the massive effort for law school. The more I think about it now, my feelings are changing. Success in the law profession doesn't require a great alma mater. (Of course it helps.) Anyway, I am still sitting on the fence on attending a school I'm less than excited about, but in the meantime I am sending out a few [more realistic] applications while I think it through. Besides, you never know, some less exciting schools may offer you $ which will sweeten the deal later when you start getting serious about how you have to finance your next 3 years.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Cornell
« on: December 21, 2005, 02:35:36 AM »
Are you guys going to send in additional application materials?  If so, what?   I am not in school anymore, so it's not like I can whip up a new transcript for them and show them I am amazing.  Extra letters of rec?  Extra letters of intent?

I was thinking of including a letter of continuing interest when I mail back their "I've been deferred but I have no pride please continue to hold me in reserve to plug holes in your shining accepted pool" postcard.

Judging from LSN data last cycle, we don't have the best chance of admission, so it can't hurt, right?

Yeah, but with your LSAT score, you might be in better stead than I.  I'm going to send a letter of interest similar to yours when I send back that wonderful post card, as well.  I was also considering another rec letter that i will magically produce out of somewhere....
My boyfriend decided I should send a picture, but i'm not sure how that would go over ;)

For this kind of thing, do you think you need to send them a physical letter or would an email work too?

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