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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Need Advice on tackling Assumption questions.
« on: September 25, 2008, 12:43:16 PM »
Thank you. This helps.

One thing I do to determine if an answer is sufficient is ask for every single answer -- could this lead to the conclusion without being required for the conclusion to happen?

Would you mind giving me an example of this?

Again, I think this is a questionable approach, because the Sufficient answer might ALSO be something required for the conclusion to happen.

However, to go back to my hypo --

If the Stimulus involves a premise that the movies cost \$10, and the Conclusion is that ChiGirl can afford to go, and you have an answer choice "A" that says ChiGirl has \$20, then we know Choice A is a Sufficent Assumption, because it would clearly be enough to justify the Conclusion.

On the other hand, it's clearly not required, as you could still go to the movies even if you didn't have \$20.  So we know it's not a Necessary Assumption.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Need Advice on tackling Assumption questions.
« on: September 24, 2008, 06:53:55 PM »
One thing I do to determine if an answer is sufficient is ask for every single answer -- could this lead to the conclusion without being required for the conclusion to happen?

Would you mind giving me an example of this?

Sufficient = enough to make things happen. Necessary = absolutely required to make things happen. This is why when you negate a necessary assumption answer, the conclusion falls apart, because you've eliminated a requirement for the conclusion to hold. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, assumption questions are asking for necessary assumptions -- ala "Which of the following is an underlying assumption to the argument." Sufficient questions are usually more like, "Which one of the following, if true, allows the conclusion to hold" -- do you have an example of a question that's giving you trouble?

Anyway.

One thing I do to determine if an answer is sufficient is ask for every single answer -- could this lead to the conclusion without being required for the conclusion to happen?

If that's not enough, another thing you could do is diagram out the premises and look at your conditionals. Sufficient --> Necessary. Look for an answer that matches/parallels the sufficient part of the conditional, not the necessary.

I know these are really basic tips, but they work for me. I had a really hard with necessary/sufficient at first, so I get where you're coming from. Let me know if anything doesn't make sense.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Study Pills
« on: September 24, 2008, 01:08:54 PM »
Take it! Knock yourself out!

Omg, what a stupid question!

Wtf???!! Where the hell is lavahead?

I'm soliciting opinions on whether one should take Adderall the day of the test. I know there was a previous dicussion in May 07 re: Adderall, but that devolved into a debate about the morality of taking Adderall the day of the test.

What I'm looking for is personal experiences with it and/or whether you plan on taking anything the day of the test.

Anybody who has problems with this topic, please save your self-rightousness and/or morality plays for another day, cuz I ain't about hearing it...

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:30:05 PM »
That's okay. It's good practice for law school, right?

You're right. I didn't look at my phone all day up until 2 hours ago and I had 19 missed calls. I agree- turning it off is the better option. I will admit that I'm one of those people glued to my blackberry though!

LOL my my people are snappy at you ChiGirl aren't they?

You'll be fine, not talking to friends for awhile just makes the good ones WANT YOU MORE.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:23:43 PM »
Well I study at my place but I was planning to take prep tests at other places like the library, book store, coffee shop, etc., etc.

I have my own place and well it's comfy and that's why I study here.

Test day isn't at your place.  Study somewhere else, even if it's not comfy.  Especially if it's not comfy.

That is all.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:19:37 PM »
I have my own place and well it's comfy and that's why I study here.

As for the phone, I've gotten better.  I keep it on silent.

I have a question. How do you deal with friends (and family) that can't grasp the fact that you HAVE TO STUDY and can't go out for dinner, or talk on the phone for a 1/2 hour (or even 15 min) or text you back or even call you back right away or even within a few days really?!

Or worse.......dropping by your place unexpectedly because "They left you messages & were worried they hadn't heard from you!"

Easy.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:16:59 PM »
Hahahahah.......not funny!

I have a question. How do you deal with friends (and family) that can't grasp the fact that you HAVE TO STUDY and can't go out for dinner, or talk on the phone for a 1/2 hour (or even 15 min) or text you back or even call you back right away or even within a few days really?!

Or worse.......dropping by your place unexpectedly because "They left you messages & were worried they hadn't heard from you!"

Umm, so yea, parents. Who drop random stupid hints about how a 171 is a bad score. And other negativity circa crazy unhelpful stressful comments when I'm taking a break and they think I'm not working hard enough.

Yes, I've told them clearly they're not helping. Yes, I've expressed every emotion from anger to reason trying to tell them that such snide insults just put unnecessary pressure on me and don't help the score. And yes, I know I shouldn't let it get to me, but I am really proud of myself for going from a 153 to where I am, but because no one in my entire family is a lawyer, no one gets how hard that is. So all they see is the 180 and think it's pie to get there and that I must not be working hard enough if I'm "just" at a 171.

Sounds like you have a stalker.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:13:06 PM »
I have a question. How do you deal with friends (and family) that can't grasp the fact that you HAVE TO STUDY and can't go out for dinner, or talk on the phone for a 1/2 hour (or even 15 min) or text you back or even call you back right away or even within a few days really?!

Or worse.......dropping by your place unexpectedly because "They left you messages & were worried they hadn't heard from you!"

Umm, so yea, parents. Who drop random stupid hints about how a 171 is a bad score. And other negativity circa crazy unhelpful stressful comments when I'm taking a break and they think I'm not working hard enough.

Yes, I've told them clearly they're not helping. Yes, I've expressed every emotion from anger to reason trying to tell them that such snide insults just put unnecessary pressure on me and don't help the score. And yes, I know I shouldn't let it get to me, but I am really proud of myself for going from a 153 to where I am, but because no one in my entire family is a lawyer, no one gets how hard that is. So all they see is the 180 and think it's pie to get there and that I must not be working hard enough if I'm "just" at a 171.

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: How to deal with... parents.
« on: September 22, 2008, 09:06:48 PM »
Amen to this!  Talk is cheap! But I don't know about that 130 though!

Challenge them to try a full preptest. Works with all of my friends.

Then you can watch their sad faces drop into the abyss when they pull that low 130..

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##### Studying for the LSAT / Re: Undoubtedly the hardest Strengthen question ever. Need Help
« on: September 21, 2008, 11:36:01 AM »