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Transferring / Intra-Regional Transfer
« on: June 09, 2008, 07:42:02 PM »
Is it worth transferring to another school if it is in the same market where you currently study?

I haven't even entered 1L yet, but am considering transferring already... the whole "economy/Tier2 school/snowball's chance in hell of being able to pay off your loans" thing has really got me spooked.

Am I experiencing cold feet, or should I start planning for an escape from my "decent" school now?   :-\ :(

Current Law Students / Re: AspenLaw Study desk
« on: June 08, 2008, 05:19:34 PM »
I know some people dont like it and I forget how much it costs but I think it was somewhere between $20 and $40... you can make flash cards, notes, outlines etc. on Aspen Study Desk... usually they have monthly promotions too where you can download free copies of E&Es, premade flashcards etc. also found it easy to organize notes. First semester I relied heavily on word and it was a lot more difficult when it came time to organize all my papers for outlining etc. Study Deak makes outlines for you if you want but I decided not to do that because I find making them myself a good way of reviewing. Regardless, it was still easier using that application... I would really recommend checking it out sometime... sometimes they even have promotions where the program is free if you buy an e-book. 

Otherwise, I am sure there is a way you could set up word to do it for you

I actually don't find note cards too helpful for the way I learn but it is really easy for those in particular

I would stay away from any recording devices. Most schools require approval from the professor and sometimes even the dean and most professors, especially the older ones, say no. Besides, a recording won't help you much. There is a lot of talk that goes on in class that will never be on a final. The key point is just to get the main ideas and their nuances down, and to know how and when to apply them. Passing comments or even random remarks of interest are not important and indeed would hurt you if you had them because there would be more things to sort through which will waste your time studying. For example, you will likely talk about the Quia Emptores in property class and the history of estates back during the feudal period etc. but I highly doubt any professor would test on it. It would be something nice to "spruce up" your answer with a passing reference but not an essential part. We spent about a whole class on that stuff and at most it was one short sentence or two on the exam.  So, I would just stay clear of recording or any other devices that record everything that is said in class

Enough said... I was worried about regulations on recording, so if it seems that it will be a hassle (or worse, a waste of money) then I think I will pass.  I am going to try the StudyDesk, though.  It is $40 and I could find an easier way to justify that "waste" if I find it's not worth it.  The SmartPen is upwards of like $200!

Current Law Students / Re: Pulse SmartPen
« on: June 08, 2008, 05:13:35 PM »
I will, should I get it.  i thought I had stumbled on to something ingenious, but it looks as though most people (if not almost ALL) have no clue or think it's a waste of time.  Thanks for your thoughts, though.  It confirmed some of my fears re: time wasting and regulations.

Current Law Students / Re: Summer Prep
« on: June 08, 2008, 11:12:00 AM »
I have been reading a book recommended by my school, which is okay: Law School Without Fear (by the Shapos (first names escape me now).  It can be boring and VERY basic sometimes, but it has helped to calm my nerves and I think I will actually use some of the advice.  Also, I read Law School Confidential and it has some good suggestions for studying, briefing, etc.

I tried to do some CALI lessons online, but there's really no point, since I have no idea what they are talking about yet!!! But, as far as actual substantive reading on subjects, I tend to think others, like jeffislouie, have the right idea.  It seems counterproductive.

BUT- I got an AP Prep book on economics and it is good stuff.  It is kind of blah, but for a philosophy major, like me, it helps put a different spin on things.  Also, I hear that economics is a good foundation to have for Torts, and that since economic issues underlie a lot of policy, it helps to be fresh with it.

Just a note- I spend a lot of time at the pool swimming, because much of the advice I've gotten suggests starting an exercise regime if you do not already have one!!!  :)

That book (Law school without fear) is by far the worst thing I've ever read.  My law school made it a requirement.  It stinks.  Poorly written, it doesn't tell you much of anything while claiming to be this fantastic tool.  It's crap.  Written by two lawyers (law profs? not sure anymore) with an inflated sense of self.  I hate that book.
Starting an excercise routine is an excellent idea.  Develop that habit now or you'll get rounder.  Or skinnier.

I didn't think it was THAT BAD, but I did skip a lot of it. I would be pissed if I had spent more than $6 for it, though.

I wouldn't mind the skinnier of the two, myself...

Current Law Students / Re: Pulse SmartPen
« on: June 08, 2008, 11:01:41 AM »
Maybe a link would help!?!?!?

Current Law Students / Re: AspenLaw Study desk
« on: June 08, 2008, 11:00:04 AM »
The demo looks interesting to me.  I think that as a 0L it could be helpful, especially since I don't have a LS "style" yet.  I looked at the Outliner 4.0 from and it costs more and doesn't offer the same integration-type functions, which look cool for exam prep.  No one has responded to my post about the SmartPen, which looks like it could give both of these a run for the money even though it is more expensive then either.

Check it out at:

I'd like to see what others think.  I'm worried that if I purchase it, then i will end up with a bunch of profs who don't allow recording devices...

Current Law Students / Re: Attire for EIW
« on: June 08, 2008, 09:41:59 AM »

Current Law Students / Re: Attire for EIW
« on: June 07, 2008, 09:02:46 PM »
Jacy, off subject, but I am going to GSU this fall and wondered if you had any advice for OCI's this fall in Atlanta. I know GSU isn't Emory, but I'd like your thoughts anyhow... I've read your comments and you seem to have a firm grasp on things!   :)

Job Search / Re: 1L Summer job process
« on: June 07, 2008, 08:45:20 PM »
Yeah, I'm an entering 1L at a Tier2 school (actually it's also my alma mater, which I know some of you will criticize), but nonetheless, do these strategies work for people like me?  People with a decent UG GPA, one year commercial real estate experience, real estate license, a kid, and a 'winning personality'?!?!?

I am terrified that I will end up without a gig for the summer, and in turn, my chances of getting a nice paying job ($100,000+) will diminish significantly thereafter.

Is it even worth thinking I could land a job like that?  Obviously, if I end up in the Top 5% things may be easier, but I am certainly not placing all of my eggs in that basket!!!

I am going to school in the location I want to practice (Atlanta, GA) and have some firms in mind.  I also looked on NALP and the websites for the firms and there are a number of partners from my school at many of them.  I'm not opposed to govt positions and have really considered public interest for a career.  What can I do to up my chances to land a nice job my 1L summer?

And, out of curiosity, are white women considered "minorities"?  ;)

Just a thought...

Current Law Students / Re: Attire for EIW
« on: June 07, 2008, 08:16:48 PM »
Great advice.  Yeah, I think it wise to invest the few hundred to present myself as, at least, moderately "socially competent," right? Besides, it's not like I won't use it for years thereafter anyway...

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