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Current Law Students / Re: Here's the dealio
« on: July 07, 2008, 08:01:52 PM »

Current Law Students / Re: Here's the dealio
« on: July 07, 2008, 07:51:04 PM »

Well that's telling, now isn't it?!?!

Current Law Students / Re: Here's the dealio
« on: July 07, 2008, 07:35:56 PM »
OP- If you would oblige,

1) What # are you of your list?

2) What year are you, or have you graduated?

3) If you have graduated, what's your job/debt/despair scenario looking like?

No worries PaleForce, I myself am still wasting precious time posting about this idiocy!!! lol

Georgia State / Re: Class of 2011
« on: July 07, 2008, 07:18:28 PM »
I'm feeling much better now...thanks for tolerating that!

Georgia State / Re: Class of 2011
« on: July 07, 2008, 07:16:45 PM »
FYI, this is a rant...

Does anyone else find it extremely annoying that we can't get our refunds for financial aid until drop/add period?!?!?

Oh, but don't you worry your little head now, cause the sweet ol' school has given us a credit to use at the campus bookstore... What a crock o'sh!t.  I refuse to spend 20-30% more than I have to on already ridiculously priced textbooks.  Oh, wait, I don't have a choice now do I?  I, like soooo many other poor students, don't have the $700+ laying around to pay out of pocket for my books.  Nor do I, thanks to the delay in section assignment, have enough time to "shop around" before classes begin and ensure beyond a reasonable doubt that my books will arrive on time without forking out the extra $$$ on expedited delivery!!!

ARRGGHHH!!!!  >:(

It is difficult to let go of the idea of becoming a member of this profession because it has essentially been my goal for at least five years.  I refer to my previous example: it is similar to the religious person having difficulty coming to terms with the reality of a godless world.  They still want to believe but the evidence shows no reason for belief.  This is where I am at. 

The reason why I believe science is different from the law (hence more interesting) is because it deals with fundemental concepts of existence, while law deals with arbitrary ideas, fleeting moments within fleeting nations.  Therefore the grunt work of science would be for some greater purpose (at least a greater purpose than law).  A greater purpose in the sense that I believe it is more important to understand the universe than understand one nations arbitrary rules of legality.

I suppose, really, I do simply have to make a choice.  That is the only realistic conclusion.   

It seems that you have made the choice... Further, if this is the type of view you have re: law school and the practice of law, do us all a favor and get off this site.  More importantly, if you are having such a hard time deciding whether to go or not based on these beliefs, then your analytic skills are sub-par and you probably wouldn't do well at your T2/T3/T4 or whatever you said you were considering anyway!!!

By the way, why is anyone else wasting time with such immaturity?!?!?!  Please tell me we have better things to do than argue over accreditation standards, matriculation rates, and penis size of med schools and law schools....

Oh, wait, we are wanna-be lawyers aren't we?!?!   ;)

Georgia State / Re: Class of 2011
« on: June 17, 2008, 09:34:04 PM »
How do you know what your COA is?  Is that on FAFSA site or GSU?  I have already accepted the loans from the govt, but need some more $$$.  Sad, because GSU is soooo cheap.

RE: the assignment- have any of you gotten the R.W.A books, yet? I hope that 7 chapter thing will be a laughing matter when I actually see the book! If not, I should probably put down all these worthless "law school guides for the people who are really paranoid and neurotic" books and get crackin'...

What about the parent-teenager rule thing?!?!?!  It can't be as easy as it seems, can it?  ???

Georgia State / Re: Class of 2011
« on: June 16, 2008, 12:04:24 PM »

Is anyone else concerned that this whole Law School and the Legal System class at orientation will end up being a crash course in Socratic Method mayhem? I did that brief and feel like I got it all wrong...

And, I'm a parent, so this case really got me scared in more ways than one!!!


I am in the EXTREME minority, and will be undoubtedly flamed up and down this board, but I turned down a T-14 spot for a T3  full ride. However, I had some unique factors in that I am a bit older, had a wife that could not easily move and I would be fine ending up in the small state that my school is in. Also, my school has a strong specialty program that I was also very interested in. Now that 1-L is over, I am at the very top of my class and am beginning to start my job search. I found the single largest factor in doing well on 1-L exams was writing ability. The best writers in my class are all at the top of the class. It may not be fair, but when a prof sits down and starts reading a well-written exam, there is a strong bias toward that student - small mistakes are overlooked and positive assumptions made. There is also a very strong correlation at my school between LSAT and class rank. I don't know if this is common at other schools, but it is a clear delineating line here.
It will be interesting to see how my job prospects shake out, but I am not overly concerned. I have little debt and will have a lot of flexibility as a result. I am very happy with my choice and urge everyone to take into account all the various factors that should go into a serious decision such as school choice.
For many students, "take the top ranked" is the answer, but that is largely a function of the relatively homogenous pool of this forum. If you are young, dead-set on BigLaw with few obligations and willingness to follow the money wherever it may lead, that advice is often solid. But for those of us who don't fit the mold, the decision is more nuanced.

Thanks for your story.  It seems to me that you have hit the nail on the head re: the types of people on this board, and even with regard to how you chose your school. I think that for many non-traditional students (myself included) the idea of a T14 and BIGLAW isn't all that glamorous.  This is especially true if you have a spouse and/or children. Sometimes, people honestly just want to be lawyers no matter the path to getting there.

On another note, I hope that you are right when it comes to the correlation b/t writing, LSAT scores, and being at the top of the class. Like most people here (even though I am not aiming for BIGLAW and am not at a T14), I would still like to be at the top of my class.  I guess I can post back here next summer and let you know how that all panned out for me!!! hahaha

I just want to shout out to all the MILS and DILS out there, too.  It takes courage to take on law school and be a parent all at the same time!  ;) lol

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