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Hey all!

I have a dilemma that's been keeping me up at night.  I'm scheduled to take this December 2008 exam, but I'm not sure if my impending circumstances would allow me to perform my best on the exam day.  Before I go any further, let me give you some of my background information:

-  This next LSAT will be my third exam.  I cancelled the previous two, including the October 2008.

-  Been studying consistently for over a year now.  During the recent months, I've been scoring above 170 for the most part and my highest was 178.

-  Other parts of my applications are finished with help from Anna Ivey: Personal Statement, Statement of Purpose, Resume, and three great LOR.

-  Have about three years of work experience and continues to work at the same place.

This last point is also a problem since during the past three months I've traveling non-stop.  Constant travel has been exhausting and if I were to take the exam next friday, I need to fly back to my home and take it at the designated site.  Of course, there is a good chance that I will do well and get this over with. Hopefully, I will be able to submit my applications in time and start attending one of the schools of my choice in fall 2009.  However, my goal is to apply with the best score and have the best chance in getting accepted to one of the top law schools.  I can postpone and take the exam at a later date when I'm feeling less exhausted and stressed, but this would also mean that I have to wait another 20 months or so to start my education. 

I honestly believe that I can still improve my timing on each sections and increase my accuracy a bit more.  I would greatly appreciate any of your feedbacks, opinions, or advices.  Thank you.

(Does this somehow resemble one of the LSAT's writing section?)

I have a buddy who took the LSAT in June and October. He is planning on taking it again in December, and believes that this is the last time he can take the exam. I never canceled an LSAT, so I have no clue as to whether or not this is true. Does anyone know if you can only take (or cancel) a certain number of LSATs in a given period?

Studying for the LSAT / Re: has anyone tried ACE test prep?
« on: November 30, 2008, 02:21:29 PM »
likely another shill - most of his posts mention this Ace company.

What do they say about people who live in glass houses?

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / UChicago Visit
« on: November 21, 2008, 06:26:08 PM »
Last Friday I visited UChicago. I opted out of the standard open house events and, instead, followed a 2L around campus for the day.

I met up with a 2L student, went and got amazing thai food, brought the food back to the law school, and sat in the student lounge area with a table of 2L students. While eating, I spoke with two 2L students. One had a summer internship with Skadden, the other had a summer internship with Wachtell. Both students, despite their obvious intellect and insane job prospects, were very gracious and down-to-earth.

In fact, everyone I encountered at UChicago was outgoing, friendly, and left such a positive impact on me that I'm pretty sure, at this point,  I'd reject HYS for an opportunity to attend.

After lunch, I sat in on a Corporations class with Henderson. He was wickedly brilliant, witty, and entertaining. The class was fairly large, probably 130 or so, but it felt much smaller... no one was intimidated to speak... There were actually a few points throughout the lecture that I wanted to raise my hand and participate. Henderson had a great way of making the class fun, and had everyone laughing at least 4 or 5 times in the short 1:05 period that I spent with him.

After class...  both Jayme McKellop (Assistant Director of Admissions) and Sara Arimoto-Mercer ( Director of Financial Aid) somehow recognized me from the LSAC Chicago Law Forums, and both took the time to say Hello, which made me feel very welcome. Later, I met with Ann Perry (Assistant Dean for Admissions), with whom I spoke for 10-20 minutes. She was very gracious and helpful.

I've never felt so welcomed and comfortable at a school. It was truly a great experience that I won't forget throughout the app cycle.

Thought I'd share my experience...

Studying for the LSAT / Re: testmasters180 or testmasters?
« on: November 20, 2008, 03:10:06 PM »
the real testmasters is at, which happens to be now. The ads that you are referring to are for, the real (Robin Singh) testmasters.

UPDATE - Sale is over.

Price is back up to $64.99.

Hope some of you took advantage!

The PowerScore Logic Games Bible is on Sale at for $40.94 with free shipping.

Hey guys,

Hope everyone's prep is going well. Sorry I haven't been much help for the December test takers. I've been incredibly busy, but I'm hoping to have a bit more time to spend on here in a couple of weeks. If you've e-mailed or private messaged me, I'm really sorry that I haven't gotten back to you. (Sorry ChiGirl!)

Just wanted to give everyone the heads up that is having a sale on the Logic Games Bible for $40.94 with free shipping.

The LGB pretty much saved my life back in June. It is usually $57.99 from PowerScore ($51.99+$6.00 shipping), so if you haven't picked up a copy yet you can save yourself $17.50.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: college classes as prep
« on: October 06, 2008, 01:20:07 PM »

Any book recomendations for formal logic? -

You can't go wrong with Introduction to Logic, by Harry Gensler

Studying for the LSAT / Re: college classes as prep
« on: October 06, 2008, 01:09:14 PM »
I don't know how helpful an intro to philosophy course would be, although if it helped HYS then I'm sure it has the possibility of doing some good.

My intro to philosophy course helped develop my ability to critically analyze arguments. We deconstructed and evaluated arguments on god, free will, utilitarianism, etc. It was a great course that I credit for forming the foundation of much of my analytical thinking skills.

I do think that the extent to which an intro to philosophy course would be helpful for the LSAT depends upon how the course is taught
and who teaches it.

One book that I read in my intro to philosophy course, which I think is why I got as much out of the class as I did, is Think, by Simon BlackBurn (see: Think: A Compelling Introduction to Philosophy). I'd highly recommend it.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: college classes as prep
« on: October 06, 2008, 10:58:11 AM »
Anyone think taking critical reasoning and symbolic logic in college is money and time well spent for the test?

I do believe that formal logic and intro to philosophy helped me a great deal on the LR section. I don't think it is a coincidence that philosophy majors have one of the highest LSAT score averages.

Having said that, I believe that spending the time and money on targeted LSAT prep with a prep company or tutor would be more beneficial.

If taking a formal logic course would fulfill some requirement toward graduation or count as an elective, then go for it. If not, spend the tuition money and time on a tutor or prep course.


Studying for the LSAT / Re: OMG I got sick before the test.
« on: October 04, 2008, 11:23:00 AM »
Umm....excuse me. You'll have to take a #!!  Lol. ;)

You aren't sick. You are an LSAT machine. Machines can't get sick.

Don't allow yourself to even consider the possibility that being sick could affect your performance on the LSAT. Not now. Don't even consider that possibility until after the exam when you are deciding if you will keep or cancel your score.

 You will take the test tomorrow. You will nail it. You aren't sick. You will do great.

I was lucky enough to watch Tiger Woods 4th round play on June 15th, the day before my LSAT. (see: ) His knee was hurting so bad that he couldn't hit the ball without nearly collapsing in agony. Still, he never considered the possibility of quitting. He never considered the possibility of failure. He maintained focus throughout the round. Despite his injury. Despite the crowds of thousands. He maintained focus and pushed through the pain. There is something inspiring about excellence per se. Get inspired to CRUSH the LSAT tomorrow.

Where did you come from?! And when are we getting married?  ;)



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