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If I did well I hope they release it on the third so I can have a very happy 21st bday over the weekend. If I bombed it I hope they don't release it until the 7th so it doesn't ruin my birthday (and I don't drink myself to death).

That would be a great 21st birthday gift.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic Games by Type and Question
« on: June 23, 2008, 06:42:18 PM »
Its all about figuring out what works for you personally. For me, I'd worked about 40 preptests (usually missing 3 to 6 per section) prior to finally buying the LGB. After working through the bible one day I was down to missing 0 to 2 on LG's from PT 40-53 (and finished 2 minutes early on June 2008 LG).

The section went from being my worst section pre-LGB to being my best section a few days later post-LGB.

Stephcope's method sounds somewhat like the method. Which, in the end, didn't help me much. Still, if it works for her (or for anyone else) then thats great.

Of course, the official release date is July 7th...

But, I'm going to go ahead and guess that they will release scores early on July 3rd and let us relax and celebrate (or drink away our sorrows) over the holiday weekend.

What is everyone else guessing?


Studying for the LSAT / Re: To cancel or not!?
« on: June 16, 2008, 09:24:11 PM »
I think that a decision to cancel must depend on two things:

1) Is your score likely to reflect your aptitude on the LSAT?

2) Is your score likely to be accepted at your target schools?

If you feel as though you are in the low to mid 160s and you want to go to HYS, then cancel your score.

Having said that, if your preptest scores are in the mid to high 160s and you want to go to HYS, you may have to adjust your expectations.

My best preptest was 178, my last 10 preptests were in the 172-178 range, and I am not convinced that I am going to be competitive at HYS based on figures.

Additionally, I would also consider the extent of your prep. I went through 53 preptests over the last 2 or 3 months. If i wanted to retake in October, I honestly don't think that there is much more that I could possibly do. Did you do everything that you could to prepare for this exam? If not, will you have the time and energy to put into fully preparing for the October exam?

Either way, sleep on it for a night or two. Most people feel as though they performed worse than they could have on exam day. Take some time to consider everything.

Good Luck!


Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAT Analog Watch Tip
« on: June 09, 2008, 03:13:02 PM »
One problem I've heard with this is that you don't always have time to set it back between sections.

The moving bezel method is a bit quicker than resetting to 12 (though admittedly only by a second or two), and also doesn't allow for the mistake of forgetting to push the dial back in the dial and begin the time.

Studying for the LSAT / LSAT Analog Watch Tip
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:39:51 AM »
SUMMARY: For the best LSAT watch, get an analog watch with a rotating bezel (like this one)... then all you have to do is line the 0 on the bezel up with the minute hand when each section begins, and you have an easy, visual, reference to see exactly where you are within the 35 minutes.

I thought I'd share a tip that I've found to be very helpful.

When I first began studying for the LSAT, I used a cheap analog wristwatch that I had lying around the house.

I would start my LSAT timer, make a mental note of the time that the test would be up (or would write down the start/stop times on the first page of the section) and would refer to my watch at various points throughout the test to ensure that I was properly pacing myself.

Unfortunately, there were times during the test when (in the heat of things) I would forget exactly when the test would be ending. At that point, I either had to take a few seconds and recall when it began, or take a moment to flip back to the front of the section where I often recorded the start and stop times. Either way, I would have to break my concentration for at least 5 or 10 seconds in order to regain a sense of timing.

In addition, It always took a few seconds for me to get a sense of where, on my watch, the 8:45, 17:30, 26:15 marks were.

Serendipitously, I lost the watch that I had been using, and borrowed my girlfriend's watch to take a test. I may have felt a bit emasculated using such a girly watch, but I immediately fell in love with a feature that this watch had: The bezel turns, and all you have to do is line the 0 on the bezel up with the minute hand at the point that the test begins, and you have an easy, visual, reference to see exactly where you are within the 35 minutes.

Since I didn't want to take a pink watch with me to the testing center on test day, I purchased a Casio for around $20 with the same turning bezel feature as my new LSAT watch:

This LSAT watch has been my best friend ever since. I was able to make marks at the 8:45, 17:30, 26:15 for additional reference points on the bezel. I've found it be to very helpful. It is one less thing that I have to think about during the test, and helps me make sure that I never lose a sense of proper pacing.

If you don't own a watch with a turning bezel, I would highly suggest finding one ASAP, and getting used to using it before test day.

More LSAT watch tips here.

Studying for the LSAT / LSAT superstitions
« on: June 08, 2008, 11:41:35 PM »
I'm not a superstitious guy, but LSAT prep has got me developing some very odd superstitions:

1) I take every PT (and intend to take the real test) in the same shirt that I first broke the 170s while wearing. It happened to be a vintage Harvard tee, which I originally purchased on eBay as a motivational aid to inspire me to do well on the LSAT in the first place.

2) I never use the same pencil on more than one test, and always use a fresh pencil to begin each AR section. While this habit is admittedly founded in superstition, it nevertheless has proven to be utilitarian as well (although I am acquiring a large collection of dull pencils in my desk).

3) I purchased a new analog watch specifically for the LSAT a couple of weeks ago. During the first test that I took using the new watch, I wore it on my wrist... I scored around 4 points below what I had been averaging over the previous five or six PT's (with a standard deviation of around 1 point)... I have never worn the watch again.

4) I ate chineese food yesterday and my fortune cookie read:

"You will pass a difficult test that will make you happier.
Lucky # 10, 23, 32, 33, 40, 43
Learn Chinese: Dan-Gao, [Chinese characters], Cake"

It was clear enough to me what 'test' the cookie was referring to, so I began to read further into it: Adding my "lucky numbers" yields 181. Which... is close enough to 180 to be symbolic of the LSAT (at least when viewed by an LSAT-addled mind). In fact, I now think of an LSAT score of "181" in much the same way that I am giving "110%" effort to achieve as high a score as possible. I also am happy to know that the LSAT will be "cake."

5) I generally wear flip-flops in the summer, but tonight I happened to be wearing socks while taking PT 39. I was finally able to get over a three week long plateau and score a 176. I doubt that I will ever test sock-less again.

Does anyone else have any LSAT superstitions?

I honestly believe that they are helpful (not becuase of any magical LSAT-aiding power inherent in my shirt or socks, but simply because I've created a routine around taking an LSAT which is familiar and comfortable for me. In addition, whenever I put on that shirt now, I begin to mentally prepare myself to think in the specific way which is required by the LSAT.)

This thread is of considerable interest to me:

I'm originally from Illinois, and love Chicago. However, I've never spent much time outside of The Loop/Lincoln Park/Michigan Ave. My fiancée will be moving with me, and I am particularly concerned with her safety, as I anticipate that she will be home alone fairly often.

How does the Northwestern campus area compare?

What neighborhoods in particular must be avoided when considering apartments/homes/etc.? Is anything south of 60th pretty bad? How about the area just north of Washington Park between MLK and S Cottage Grove? Is it generally better as you get closer to the lake?

BAFF for later... interesting discussion...

BAFF? I'm afraid this acronym is not a part of my lexicon. I'm new here, so I apologize in advance if this is nomenclature that I am expected to be privy to. Would someone please fill me in?

I for one do not approach law school as something that is as conditional as the OP's concerns may suggest. I want to be a lawyer. I am not buying stock or leasing a car because I have extra money. This is a life decision that I have made and I am fairly confident in.

I suppose the issue then becomes a matter of timing: "If I wait until 20xx to begin law school, I will be more likely to graduate into a favorable job market." This is, of course, nearly impossible to predict with any precision. If you are able to time the market with that kind of accuracy then you'd enjoy a much more lucrative career in hedge fund management.

Given that law school is a three-year endeavor, it is very difficult (if at all possible) to forecast the macroeconomic conditions into which you are likely to graduate. If you begin your matriculation in a bear market, you are just as likely (if not more likely--given historical trends in economic expansion and contraction) to graduate into a bull market as you are to graduate into a bear market. Imagine the uncertainty facing those students entering law school in 2001--yet they graduated into a rapidly expanding economy. Alternatively, I'd imagine that the class entering law school in 1999 was very optimistic about their job prospects, yet they graduated into the worst job market in a decade.

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