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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Berkeley???
« on: June 28, 2008, 01:39:52 PM »
Yeah, its a tough decision.  I have already been admitted to Georgetown and really like that school.  Berkeley though would be such a fun place to study law and in a great area.  I'm conservative so that makes me a little apprehensive but have been told that it really isn't as big of a deal as it is made out to be.  Anyways, I think it is fun to be in a liberal environment as it really makes you think and get your beliefs challenged.

I kind of would like to be able to see if I get accepted at any  of the other schools I applied to (Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, Chicago, Penn, NYU).  We will see but Berkeley sounds like such a great place though.  Thanks for providing your input.

Where should I go next fall? / Berkeley???
« on: June 27, 2008, 06:27:14 PM »
Hey guys.  I was just admitted to UC Berkeley and am having a little bit of a tough time deciding whether I should accept or not.  I was admitted as a transfer student and the only thing holding me back is that I have a strong interest in international corporate work.  When I think Berkeley public service and environmental law are what come to mind.  Is there a current student or somebody very familiar with the program who could elaborate on the strength of their corporate program?

The only other thing that is really holding me up is that they make you decide within 48 hours of receiving the packet of information.  That probably means I have to make a decision prior to hearing from my top picks, Columbia, Harvard, or Stanford.

Thanks for all the help.

First off, Congratulations.  That is great to hear.

I was curious as to when you went complete and if they notified you by email or what not when your application was complete?  Thanks and best of luck with the move..

Yeah, it can be doen and is actually verh advisable in certain regards.  However, most people say go to a U.S. law school and study abroad for a year to get an LLM.  I don't know if you could get into Colubmia or not but they have an awesome awesome program for this.  Look into it.  Most schools will let you do that.

2L job search / Re: Experience with These Firms?
« on: June 24, 2008, 10:43:16 AM »
I'd like to suggest that the above advice on firm personality be applied to all firms.

Definitely.  Just using Paul Weiss as an example, not singling it out.  I firmly believe one of the most important factors, if not the most important factor in choosing between  firms is the culture of that firm. 

2L job search / Re: Experience with These Firms?
« on: June 24, 2008, 10:29:26 AM »
On the Paul Weiss note be sure to learn a lot about the personality of the firm.  I have known several people who have worked there and didn't like it all.  Mainly because the firm simply didn't fit their personality.  They described it as a very "loud" firm where if you make a mistake expect to get yelled at.  Also, it doesn't have much of a "laid back" atmosphere.  These guys moved to another very highly regarded firm and are much happy.

I am sure Paul Weiss is a great place for some people but be sure to learn as much about the culture as possible because there are awesome law firms out there that will fit just about any personality, including Paul Weiss if their culture suits you.

I don't know too much about the other firms besides Fulbright & Jaworski as I have known several attorneys from there who really seemed to enjoy their job.  Another firm worth adding to the list is Debevouise and Plimpton (however, you spell it).  I've heard amazing things about that firm and their culture.

Hey guys, I am thinking about transferring to Columbia this year and was wondering if anybody had an idea of whether there is still housing left for transfer students.  I think they usually let us know by the middle of July or so.  Thanks.

Transferring / Housing at Columbia
« on: June 04, 2008, 11:02:39 PM »
Hey guys I was wondering if there were any people out there who
transferred to Columbia last year and might know the situation
regarding oncampus housing. Is there still on campus housing left
for transfer students or are you pretty much on your own? Thanks.

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: MJ OR KOBE?
« on: May 01, 2008, 03:38:20 PM »
I think it verges on silly to say that Kobe is better than Michael Jordan.  And Kobe is by far my favorite player in the league right now.  What sets Jordan apart is the way he elevates his teammates to new levels.  What happen to Pippen when Jordan left and for that matter what happen to anybody who played with Jordan after Jordan wasn't around.  They just weren't very good.

Also, the competition in the league was much better back then.  The league today is an absolute joke.  You have a bunch of gangsters running around like their heads chopped off.  Oh how I do long for the days of the way basketball was played in the 90's.  Most of the players still had a little bit of class in them. 

You consider a contract involving giving somebody $100,000 in exchange for a promise to go to one of the top law schools in the country an adhesion contract? An adhesion contract is only invalid if it is one no reasonable person would sign. The Model Rules of Professional Responsibility do not apply to anybody because they are the MODEL rules. Not to mention NY's professional responsibility law is based on the old model code, they never switched over. Anyway, you can be rejected from the bar for planty of things that would not get you disbarred, since there is a general "good moral character and general fitness" rule. I don't actually think this would prevent his bar admission but you had better believe they will ask about it. As for not opening themselves up for being haled to court? Again, what colorable, not even winnable, but colorable legal claim could they make. Furthermore, NYU is a major university. Fending off a loser lawsuit is a joke to them.

and this is not going to be much of a fight. Sorry.

You're right. Its not much of a fight because you already lost. The "contract" is legally unenforceable and the person is not being unethical when he/she doesn't withdraw other apps.

You got mad because someone would dare to contradict you. Your little ego couldn't comprehend that. Get over yourself.  :-*

The contract is legally unenforceable isn't the point. One it's not illusory.  If NYU doesn't give them the scholarship they promised then they breach.  If the guy doesn't go to the school then he breaches.  An adhesion contract.  Give me a break.  NYU is offering to give him a full ride for simply agreeing that he would come there.  Wow, they really forced him into that one.

Now, they would never sue in court but they could send letters to other schools saying that this person signed a binding agreement and now is revoking and that looks horrible.  Probably would result in other top schools revoking an offer in my mind.

Also, it is good to get in the habit of conducting yourself as a professional now.  This is when you are going to start making connections within the legal community.  Don't make yourself look like a complete DB before you even get there.  NYU is a great school just accept the scholarship and binding agreement if that is what you want.  Otherwise let the scholarship go and take your chances elsewhere.

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