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Current Law Students / Re: NBA FINALS
« on: May 31, 2008, 03:22:20 PM »
Hell yea. Its going to be the best finals since the Bulls vs. Sonics in 1996. When Jordan got back to the top.

Lakers in 6.

Current Law Students / Re: My law school screwed me!!!
« on: May 28, 2008, 10:48:55 PM »
Yea man I feel for you. That is bs. What kind of retroactive poo is that.

BTW guys what the heck is TTT?

TTT= 2nd,3rd, 4th, tier law schools.

Current Law Students / Re: My law school screwed me!!!
« on: May 28, 2008, 09:29:02 PM »
So I was supposed to graduate a week ago. Turns out I didn't meet the requirements for graduation. You see, I go to Western State University School of Law in Fullerton CA. Not a very reputable school. It's ranked low. It's provisionally accredited with the ABA. I decided to go there because they accepted me. That is pretty much the story of the majority at WSU. Law school was difficult, but I managed to keep my head above water. I managed to stay away from academic probation. For a while I was able to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Right before the end my second year the administration sent out a letter notifying the students that it was unhappy that some students were skimming by; never mind the fact that these student (me included) were skimming by because the school's academic standard. Western State University School of Law decided to make some changes. It added an additional requirement to graduate. Students were now required to get above a certain grade in a number of classes from that point on or they would not graduate. If a student failed to graduate, he or she can retake some classes for a semester to meet the requirement. If the student fails to meet the requirement, the student is given his walking papers. In addition, the school did away with the curve, deflating grades across the board, making it more difficult to see those grades. We pleaded with the administration. We argued that the requirements are unfair to those students who made it this far and who would otherwise be graduating. In fact, a good percentage of the students would not know if they will graduate until they received their last law school grade. Well, that is exactly what happened to me.

Here is my gripe. Following the announcement I did everything I could to increase my grades. I met with professors more often. I wrote more practice exams. I have been getting close, but not close enough. Still, Western State University School of Law was perfectly happy taking 3 years of my tuition. Western State School of Law has taken 3 years of my life. I knew when I enrolled that there was a good chance that I would not make it passed my first year. I accepted this as a reality that all law students face going in. I never expected for a law school to string me along until the very end pushing false hope, only to tell me sorry and thanks for coming. I told the dean that I wish they would have kicked my ass out a long time ago. At least then I would not have wasted my time and money. I feel like I have been screwed pretty good.

A word of advise to those who may be considering going to Western State University - DO NOT GO TO THIS SCHOOL.

Man, that sucks.

This is NOT the first time I heard this crap being pulled at western state. One of my best friends suffered like you at western state. He was a part timer who was also edging by and then after his 1st year, the school told him he was dismissed. He had not even been put on academic probation or given notice. They just collected tuition from him for a year and then when they felt he was not helping them achieve full accrediatation, they booted him.

I attend a provisional ABA approved school because they gave me a modest scholarship. They have not pulled anything like western state so far, ( just finished 1L) but this does scare me. The grading is such bs at these schools though. I still do not know how important grades are if you do not go biglaw. I hear conflicting stories that small/medium firms do not always focus on grades when deciding between candidates.

Anyhow, I agree with the other posters that you should write the ABA. Going the CBA route is an option depending on what type of law you wanted to practice. Do not let this stop you if you really want to be a lawyer. Goodluck to you brother.

"Failure will never overtake me if my determination to succeed is strong enough."

Current Law Students / Re: law review write on competition
« on: May 10, 2008, 09:01:05 PM »
How would being gay explain a lot?

If A is gay, A is bad.
A is gay.

Therefore, A is Bad.

I took one.

And now, as I approach the end of my 1st year, I recommend you do NOT.

Just get drunk everyday and enjoy your time before school begins.

Trust me, once you hit exams and stressful periods of 1L, you wont be like Gee I am glad I took that preview class, but instead you will be saying I should have been drunk.


Current Law Students / Re: Clever Professors Piss Me Off
« on: May 10, 2008, 08:49:36 PM »
I got that bull question about who owns the moon. What law school do you go to? Perhaps we are classmates.

Anyways, I was so heated at the question, that I responded that little white goblins own the moon and began describing how goblins were first in right, and some other bull from that bull mcintosh property case about the indians. I mentioned no proper doctrine and bs'd my answer for 45 minutes. At the end, I stated if its not the white goblins, (just to cover my bases, because we all know there is NO right answer in law school) then it was God. I then spent the remaining 15 minutes discussing the greatness of organized religion. 

True story. I passed the test too.

Job Search / Re: Value of a Clinical Externship
« on: March 12, 2008, 07:04:24 PM »
thanks everyone. Normally, how competitive are clinical externship? I thought at first it was simple but when I was told only 5 people are accepted to this offered externship, ( hundreds apply because it is open to many law schools  not just mine) I was baffled. Competition carries over to clinical externships as well I guess.  ???

Job Search / Re: Value of a Clinical Externship
« on: March 12, 2008, 03:42:33 PM »
I appreciate your reply.

The clinic is pass/fail.

What are your thoughts on the value of such position on a resume? Do prospective employers atleast see this as a valuable experience in a legal environment? I will be working directly with clients and doing discovery and motions and the such. It sounds like valuable experience.

Job Search / Re: Value of a Clinical Externship
« on: March 12, 2008, 11:56:05 AM »
What is your GPA and what school do you attend?  That will make a difference.

Top 40%. T4

Job Search / Value of a Clinical Externship
« on: March 11, 2008, 10:05:39 PM »
I have been offered a clinical externship .. My question is, what is the value of such a position? Will this position help me secure future legal work? Does it look good on a resume? This position will require me to work about 25 hours a week, its unpaid, but I do get school credit. The externship only accepts 5 students per semester.

I really would like a paid position however, but I have had no luck so far securing such a position and this externship will be done in the summer. I am a 1L btw. Should I accept the externship or hold out for paid legal office or firm work which is not guaranteed?

Any response is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time,


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