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I wasn't aware of this case until I noticed a cite to it in my administrative law supplement, at 459 F.3d 705. I think I'm beginning to better understand the contempt that has been expressed for Cooley on this board, especially with language in the opinion like this: "Further, the sanction could not be described as arbitrary and unreasonable given the highly deferential standard of review and the evidence of the school's blatant and intentional noncompliance with ABA rules."


Current Law Students / What classes to take to prepare for Big Law?
« on: October 07, 2009, 12:04:36 AM »
Not that many recent graduates or soon-to-be graduates will be breaking into big law anyways, so I should probably rephrase the question: What type of classes should a student take throughout law school if they hope to specialize in a practice typically handled by 'big law' firms. My law school has so many electives that are likely relevant to some sort of corporate/business practice its hard to know which should definitely be on a student's transcript once graduation rolls around. So, beyond the generic "Business Organizations" and "Securities Regulation"...what else should be included?

Current Law Students / Why this board sucks
« on: September 19, 2009, 12:40:02 AM »
This board sucks. It's become practically useless as a means of discussing legal problems actually covered in class. A few years about people actually debated legal issues that were read in their casebooks on this board. Now, fifty percent of posters only want to whine about OCI and how they didn't get a selection, how they hope to one day practice in "big law", how they are already practicing in "big law" and are 'taking questions', or how they were recently laid off from 'big law' and making crap money doing doc review on a contract team. There were hundreds or responses to the one guy who got a job at a 'big law' firm and was fielding questions. It made me want to puke at all the people acting as if he was some God and he their sheep. Get a life.

Oh, and to any future posters that would speculate otherwise, I did get selections from OCI & I might try for a job at a big law firm. I'm keeping my options open.

Current Law Students / OCI Invitations
« on: August 14, 2009, 06:35:31 PM »
I received an invitation via OCI to interview with a "major-regional" health insurance company in my area of the country. A review of their website reveals absolutely nothing with regard to their legal department. I was hoping someone could tell me the type of legal work that a health insurer performs. At first I thought maybe they handle claims made against them (the insurer), but it's my understanding that most insurers farm out their claims to outside firms. If that's the case, is this a type of in-house gig? And if so, what type of law do they practice (health and insurance law I'm guessing?)

Current Law Students / Supplement Suggestions
« on: July 26, 2009, 04:17:28 PM »
I'm taking Crim Pro, Sales & Leases (UCC) and Administrative Law this semester (among others). Are any of these subjects ones that students typically use a supplement for in their studies? If so, any recommendations as to which ones?

Current Law Students / Re: Evidence supplemental reading suggestions?
« on: July 23, 2009, 09:21:35 PM »
The Evidence E&E truly sucks.

Current Law Students / Re: no follow-up?
« on: July 23, 2009, 08:58:35 PM »
Dude, call the secretary back, remind her that she called you, and set up an interview time. Obviously it wasn't her that made the decision to call you in the first place. Firms are busy places, and sometimes a job prospect and interview times are not at the top of their agendas. You're giving up waaay to easily--hustle a little bit.

Current Law Students / Re: Consolidating Student Loans
« on: July 20, 2009, 12:45:31 PM »
AES (I believe it's or of those) Also try Nelnet (search for "Nelnet Student Loans" in google for the site)

Current Law Students / Re: Do these things happen in law school?
« on: July 08, 2009, 02:28:14 PM »
I hate people who participate in class not because they can't understand something, but because they DO understand it and want to bring up some random intelligent side point to the subject to show everybody.  There was this one kid who did that like every 5 minutes in Crim Law last semester and monopolized every class.  I was happy to find out that his grades are very median.  He was such a prick.

What school do you go to? That might have been me  ;)

Transferring / Re: Should I transfer to Penn?
« on: July 01, 2009, 04:56:24 PM »
 If you went to a toilet, like I do,...


Also, I completely agree with everything the last two posters said, particularly if you plan on practicing in the Philadelphia or Delaware legal markets. The disadvantages associated with transfering for someone in your position (i.e. loss of GPA, chance at law review, huge debt load, & likely some friends made) totally outweighs the prestige bump. Finally, take a look at the regional BIG LAW firm's web pages--there's a number of recent associates there then went to Temple and similarly ranked schools. With your GPA and likely law review prospects, I don't see landing a BIG LAW job in the region to be impossible without a Penn degree.

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