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It is good you pointed pointed this out to everybody. I had no idea a J.D. did not guarantee me 100k a year job and your telling me I might even have to some document review, like read documents (I never in a million years as a lawyer thought I would have to read documents, that is outrageous!!!. On top of this reading that I will have to do I might make only $28/hour?  That sounds awful oh my god the sheer terror of it all. I thought when you graduated law school law partners were waiting on the stage at graduation with contracts in hand and I just picked the one that would pay be exorbitant amounts of money to do nothing.  Then I could go out and tell everybody I was a lawyer and literally never do anything, unless of course it really interested in me then I might put a few hours of time in, until of course those documents came in.  DOCUMENT REVIEW OH MY GOD that does not sound fun. I am dropping out immediately I had no idea I would actually have to put in work to find a job or that if someone is paying me $28/hr or 224 a day they would want me to something for it and maybe even something I don't like.

I will get a degree in some filed that guarantees me a 100k a year job and does not require me to do anything I don't want to do.  I just tried to google in high-paying ridiculous easy glamorous job and it doesn't look like it exists. Obviously, you have the answer to where I can find that so please let me know. If you do find it I will drop out immediately I would love to be paid outrageous amounts of money to do nothing it would be Fing awesome!

I don't think you really understand what DocReview is. You are making light of a situation where people bust their asses for years while paying tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars just to work 14 hour days yielding between $30k and 60k a year, all on a TEMPORARY basis. Keep listening to the talk radio when you really should be listening to those who know what the heck they're talking about.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Cooley in the fall
« on: April 16, 2010, 01:09:45 PM »
Anybody planning to or considering Cooley in fall 2010? Which campus are you looking at? Have you visited?

*Please no trash talking the school, just people who seriously are or considering it.

Don't do it. Your resume looks better without it than with it. I have heard that it can actually HURT you in the future if employers see it.

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Wow. This board is so hard to navigate.  I'm Angel from http://butidideverythingrightorsoithought.blogspot.com and I saw that I have been getting traffic from this site.  I snuck a peak and I wanted to make a correction.  Both Hardknocks (my co-blogger) and I went to first tier schools. She went to a T14 and I went to a T30.  We are having an extremely difficult time finding work and I formerly worked for BigLaw and I've been out 10 years.  You guys have no clue what it's like in the legal industry. It's been bad since I graduated. Worst case scenario, you work for a poo law small firm for a pittance (or today.. you are unemployed and homeless).  Best case scenario, you get a BigLaw job and your tossed out in 3 to 5 years.  Then you're stuck earning pennies in nonprofit. There is no long term, profitable option.  So, do what you want. But think of me when you're doing temp doc review for $28/hour.

Sorry for the mistake. You are doing a great service for young Americans. I don't understand the nastiness here whenever anyone tries to say the truth.

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Why are people so f'ing stupid GLOBAL RECESSION GLOBALnot law school recession. Many people in many fields are having a hard time finding jobs no matter what the pedigree or field.  Hence the word GLOBAL recession.

To be honest it is not surprising someone who complains on an internet forum how hard it is to find a job is having trouble.  Go out and do something about it apply to jobs rather than complain on here about how hard it is.

OP have you ever had a job I am just curious?

From your post I am assuming you have never really worked before and probably went straight from undergrad to law school and as a result you never had the realization that getting a degree does not make you special. No offense to you I had that same feeling when I got out of undergrad and I was baffled that I actually had to go out and find a job and a lot of people even turned me down or ignored that is the real world though. Honestly, compmlaining on an internet forum about how tough your life is will not help you and that attitude could be why you are having trouble aside from the GLOBAL RESCISSION.



Exactly. It's a GLOBAL recession. That means these prospective students are not going to "hide" from it by spending $100,000 to attend law school.

The way I see it is like this:

If you do not have the money (and even if you do, then why waste it?) AND
If you do not have a close relative, business connection or friend in the legal profession,
THEN do not attend. [Possible exception if you get into Harvard, Yale, or Stanford because of the enormous prestige of those schools].

Yes, I have had a job before, and I don't expect anyone to bail me out. Spare me the Glenn Beck-style nonsense. I am not complaining about my life. I am only getting the message out through the thick cobwebs of lies and statistics manipulation. Do most of my colleagues have full-time jobs lined up? No. Am I in a Top 14? Yes. Are we being offered temporary part-time jobs at the school? Yes. Is it to boost the employment numbers? I think so. You judge for yourself.

There are many blogs where you can find information from people who have actually attended (apart from the isolated cheerleaders on this board).

I recommend:
http://lawschoolscam.blogspot.com
http://bigdebtsmalllaw.wordpress.com/
http://butidideverythingrightorsoithought.blogspot.com/
http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/
http://www.notolawschool.com/

Most of these blogs are from people who attended second-rate schools. These schools are called "Third Tier Toilet," although many, like Cardozo, Brooklyn Law, and Villanova, are not officially in the US News' Third Tier. However, I am here from the first tier to give you a dose of reality. Yes, I am a good student with a good resume. Yes, I have journal experience (and then some...). Everything I have said so far has been true.

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Law School Applications / Re: BEWARE THE LAW SCHOOL SCAM, LEMMINGS!
« on: April 14, 2010, 04:45:23 PM »
people go to law school expecting to be able to pay their BILLS.

The sales propaganda put out by the legal education industry assures the law school applicants that unemployment and underemployment is very low and that income is high. LIES!



It's true. I hope your message reaches the 0Ls.

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General Board / Re: Is law school worth it?- Freaked Out!
« on: April 14, 2010, 07:42:10 AM »
Byron,

It is NOT worth it. I go to a T14 (3L), and I can tell you that the job market is even worse than you think. It's not going to get better either. Please do not go to law school. Even the $40k-70k a year jobs are almost impossible to obtain now unless you have a personal connection. It's absolutely brutal.

Don't go. You'll thank me when you see your lawyer friends in misery.

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I have the inside view from a T14. MOST of my fellow graduating 3Ls do not have job offers. ANY offers. This is not simply a lack of BigLaw jobs but a structural problem in the legal community in general. Don't be fooled into thinking, "Well, I never wanted to be making $160k working at a stifling corporate law firm anyway." The job market is pure crap across the board. There is stunningly high unemployment at these elite schools.

However, the school is rehiring many of us to work at the library or in part-time research assistant positions so that we do not drag down the employment rate.

You are a fool if you think law school is a decent place to "ride out the recession."

Even Harvard Law grads are having problems finding jobs. So if the T14 grads are in danger, then what about the rest of the schools (from first tier to TTT to fourth tier)?

I hope this post is not deleted. It could save people hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you got into a law school and paid a deposit, you must still think about what I am saying and make a wise decision.

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General Board / BarBri or Kaplan?
« on: October 12, 2009, 09:08:25 AM »
Which should I take and why?

I don't know what state I will practice in. Can I register anyway and change my state later?

I'm at a T14 school and thinking about practicing in California.

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Is it necessary to send hard copies of your resume/cover letter by mail? What if you just use email? Does the firm take you much more seriously if you use the post office instead?

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1L job search / Mail or Email
« on: November 28, 2007, 07:35:05 PM »
A lot of firms list their email under the Careers Section of their website. Also, quite a few jobs on my law school's employer database say we can email our resumes and cover letters. If I am presented with the option of emailing the cover letter and resume, do I place myself at a disadvantage if I do so?

How about for public sector or government?

I'd rather not waste my time printing and mailing if I have a less than 1 in 100 chance of getting the job (1L, no grades, T14).

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