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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Cooley in the fall
« on: April 18, 2010, 04:16:49 PM »
Yes you literally die when you graduate from Cooley, the government has an order to kill you as you walk off the stage. It's like are your serious multiple books, it looks worse on a resume? 

Nobody is saying Cooley is Harvard, but I have actually worked with people that went to Cooley and were doing fine for themselves even people from CBA schools make it.  If the OP wants to be a lawyer then go for it you have a 0% chance of being unless you go to law school. If the OP is expecting anything to be handed to him from Cooley he is in for a surprise, but go to law school if you want to be lawyer, but do be aware of the risks and that Cooley is not Harvard.

There might be someone that thinks Cooley looks bad on a resume, I worked for this solo practioner who said he would never hire someone from Boalt or Stanford are those bad schools uhhhh noooooooooo! It was just his own opinion and he was entitled to have it.  Each employer can have their own view and there are a lot of factors that go into hiring someone other than the name of their school

Everyone thinks Cooley is a joke. It's literally the butt of law school jokes. It is worse than not having a law degree.

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It really isn't exaggerated.  Going to a law school that's not one of absolute best is a bad idea right now.  Unless you don't pay for any of it, or you have family or friends who'll give you a job.

Going to T2 and below school with 100K+ of expected debt is not smart, simple as that. 

The OP is a T14 3L, as am I. It's bad, but not for everyone. Myself and plenty of my friends have something lined up.

As for T2s, I am not qualified to opine, but I do hear it is horrendous.


Hold it there: no one said it was a bad investment for everyone at T14s. If you think I exaggerated, please tell these people where I exaggerated. Obviously there are people in T14s who, because of either exceptional grades or because of a good family, get jobs. The vast majority of people I know do not have full-time employment lined up. Also, while not in the top 10%, I am a good student, was on the Dean's List, have good journal experience, have a great resume with attractive stuff from even my pre-law years. For God's sake, it's even hell at Harvard.

You think I'm going to let these law schools bilk even MORE money from my fellow men and women? Why should I? So I can feel better about myself? No, that's dishonest.

Are you also going to tell me that T14 law schools are NOT rushing to give unemployed students research and library assistant positions so that the employment figure looks good for US News? Come on now.

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General Board / Re: Is law school worth it?- Freaked Out!
« on: April 17, 2010, 11:55:28 PM »
CJScalia, you keep repeating the same thing. I have a business background and a great familiarity with economics. You don't need to keep repeating that unemployment is bad in the US. The question is whether law school is worth it. The answer is, flatly, "no." It is only worth it if you have a strong connection in the industry, or if you go to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford. Otherwise, if you are going by strict economic calculations, it is definitely not worth it (and if you're going by lifestyle calculations, it's not worth it either, but that's neither here nor there).

You need to calm down and stop filling the board with your spin campaign.

You're the one on a spin campaign, not me.


Please educate me then, since you're pretty much telling 99% of the law school population they're doing something wrong; what should they rather do?

You guys should make a serious cost-benefit analysis and take the experiences of graduating 3Ls, law grads, and young lawyers seriously. I have been 100% honest in all my posts. Take it as you wish.

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I do not even start to school until August and I already have a job waiting for me and other offers and I didn't even apply for any.  Maybe you just aren't impressive enough.  My offers come from just placing myself in the right circles.  And I'm a poor country girl, so it was my networking that paid off.  It didn't come from being related to the right people or from my parents friends.  Network more.  There are jobs.

You have permanent job offers to work as an attorney even though you have yet to "start to school?" Congratulations if true, but I am very skeptical. Part-time and summer employment is not what we are talking about in this thread.

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General Board / Re: Is law school worth it?- Freaked Out!
« on: April 17, 2010, 12:59:56 PM »
CJScalia, you keep repeating the same thing. I have a business background and a great familiarity with economics. You don't need to keep repeating that unemployment is bad in the US. The question is whether law school is worth it. The answer is, flatly, "no." It is only worth it if you have a strong connection in the industry, or if you go to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford. Otherwise, if you are going by strict economic calculations, it is definitely not worth it (and if you're going by lifestyle calculations, it's not worth it either, but that's neither here nor there).

You need to calm down and stop filling the board with your spin campaign.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: law school scam
« on: April 17, 2010, 12:56:09 PM »
Great blog. Tells the truth from the inside of the profession.

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Also, if your friends at a T14 school has problems finding any job right now, they are in fact idiots. They might not be able to find the job they are looking for, but they can sure as hell find some job.

Some job, yeah sure. As research assistants or in toilet law.

Also, I don't think that you should be calling anyone an "idiot" after admitting on a public forum that you used cocaine with a professor.

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I have done it for Simon & Schuster reading every single book contract they ever had in a basement with 15 other people making $20.00 an hour for a temp agency and yea it sucked! I am not arguing that DOC review is what people want to do, but you have to make a living that is life. I was happy with $20.00 an hour and making 28.00 is even better. Believe or not right now a lot of people are making 0 an hour and there is a lot of people making near minimum wage and 28.00/hr is nowhere near that.  

You are not special for a getting a J.D. and if you think you are then you are going to be disappointed. A law degree, M.D., MBA, whatever does not make you special. School is NOTHING like the real world that is my point, that is all I am trying to say and I think a lot of people maybe you are in this group went straight from undergrad to law school and did not realize there are a million other people with degrees. Any job that is really cool is really competitive and they don't hand them out and you have pay your dues. Even if you pay your dues, do well in school and do everything right you might not end up in your ideal situation. Go walk outside your house and ask 100 people if they are completely satisfied with their job or if they even have one.

To half the people on this board wake the f*ck up life is hard, believe or not you still have to pay bills deal with landlords pay for meals even if you don't go to law school. The real world affects everybody not just those with a J.D.

Yes law school is a massive investment and it might not work out it is something to consider. Honestly, if your main goal is to have money and not bust your ass as you stated go work as a waiter right out of high school, or be a bank teller, or cashier at a hardware store and you will incur no educational debt and you won't have to work that hard.  You will have a steady paycheck and if you work at a bank for 5 or 6 years out of high high school you probably get promoted and at 24 have a decent job and no debt. I know plenty of people that did that or worked in construction and are doing well.   

Education is something you do if you want to do it. Nobody has a gun to your head saying go to law school it is a choice and you should do it if you WANT to be a lawyer, nobody is forcing you to go. So stop female dog*ng about your choice.



You're right. It doesn't make you special. It probably won't even get you a salary. It might not get you a job. Hell, it might even look BAD on your resume (especially if you go to Cooley, Cardozo, Brooklyn, NYLS, or other TTTs). That's my point. Think hard.

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General Board / Re: POLL - Better career earnings - MBA or JD ?
« on: April 16, 2010, 01:26:09 PM »
If you have a JD you have to pass the bar and that gives you job security.


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