why were they rejected?

Quote from: TheCause on April 21, 2010, 07:21:12 AM

Quote from: :)- on April 20, 2010, 10:44:18 PM

Unless your a Felon or an invalid the service can take you. If you're a coward, that's what the civie corps are for.
Just one idea that is there but people don't want. That's all. And hell yeah, people would be still whineing if they were super-easy to get into. People feel it's there civic duty to do so. My God, 5 figures a year.....Razors,I need razors......

Joining the military is a possibility for almost everyone, getting a job with JAG is not.
I know plenty of really qualified candidates who were rejected by JAG.
If you get accepted in to JAG, you graduate the modified basic training as a Lieutenant, you get a great bonus, and the loan forgiveness is amazing.  As a result, you have way more applicants than positions.

Too many qualified applicants, not enough openings. The story of the legal profession.

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Hold it there: no one said it was a bad investment for everyone at T14s. If you think I exaggerated, please tell these people where I exaggerated. Obviously there are people in T14s who, because of either exceptional grades or because of a good family, get jobs

This is really a matter of opinion, so I can't really prove anything one way or another. However, I just think that your characterization of situation is generally worse than it really is. While many of my friends here at GULC missed out on biglaw due to the economy, almost everyone I know has something reasonably good lined up post graduation- or are at least getting plenty of interviews. Plenty of people (at least 3Ls) got biglaw despite the economy with good, but not spectacular grades and no particular family ties (myself included). I agree that it's bad, just not armageddon.

I also disagree with the characterization of law school as a "Scam" in general. It may be a bad deal for some, but there's no malice going on. I do agree that for-profit law schools are dangerously close to that line though.

My characterization is accurate. If you calculate expected returns using the phony law school statistics, you will probably find law school to be a good investment. If you calculate the expected returns using the true statistics, you will probably find law school to be a bad investment. My personal opinion is that law school is a bad investment unless you have exceptional grades, are well-connected, or go to HYS (Harvard, Yale, or Stanford). YOU might have achieved a great return on your investment with average or slightly-above average grades and coming from a working class household. That's good, and I applaud you for it. But decisions about whether to go to law school should be made with a cool head.

The Wall Street Journal blog wrote yesterday that law school exhibits similar characteristics of the housing boom (http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/04/19/how-legal-education-today-is-like-sub-prime-mortgage-market-in-2006/). Although I don't see law school tuition crashing soon, I do know that law school applicants are generally not making their decisions with enough knowledge of the legal profession. Law schools are generally pretty expensive. Do you know that most TTTs charge around the same price as T14s?

That's why I'm here telling the 0Ls not to believe the numbers put out by the law schools. Also, you should understand that many people are too embarrassed to admit they don't have jobs. It's not something people like to talk about, particularly when you form part of a culture that stigmatizes poverty, unemployment, and underemployment.

Thanks for making my point for me.

Quote from: :)- on April 16, 2010, 06:17:23 PM

Retard, how is ANY degree worse than not haveing one? Mention ONE just ONE job that you can get eaiser without a cooley degree than with it.

I also am awaiting a decision.. since early february when my file was complete. I'm in the range to get a 25% scholarship based on the lsat so hopefully should come soon. I'm also planning on the ann arbor campus.

Cooley is considered a liability on a resume. It is considered to be a joke.

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It really isn't exaggerated.  Going to a law school that's not one of absolute best is a bad idea right now.  Unless you don't pay for any of it, or you have family or friends who'll give you a job.

Going to T2 and below school with 100K+ of expected debt is not smart, simple as that. 

The OP is a T14 3L, as am I. It's bad, but not for everyone. Myself and plenty of my friends have something lined up.

As for T2s, I am not qualified to opine, but I do hear it is horrendous.

Hold it there: no one said it was a bad investment for everyone at T14s. If you think I exaggerated, please tell these people where I exaggerated. Obviously there are people in T14s who, because of either exceptional grades or because of a good family, get jobs. The vast majority of people I know do not have full-time employment lined up. Also, while not in the top 10%, I am a good student, was on the Dean's List, have good journal experience, have a great resume with attractive stuff from even my pre-law years. For God's sake, it's even hell at Harvard.

You think I'm going to let these law schools bilk even MORE money from my fellow men and women? Why should I? So I can feel better about myself? No, that's dishonest.

Are you also going to tell me that T14 law schools are NOT rushing to give unemployed students research and library assistant positions so that the employment figure looks good for US News? Come on now.