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Current Law Students / Re: anyone had these three professors?
« on: July 07, 2009, 10:59:36 AM »
Both Marzan and Buccafusco are new so I don't have any info on them.

Rudstein is one of those profs you either love or hate. He's tough. More Socratic than most profs at Kent. Out of my class 90, about 4-5 walked away with an A- or above, and has no problems handing out a D. He will specifically tell you that come finals time.

Very specific about what he wants you to write about on his exams. Hates people writing about unnecessary crap. Loves the MPC (you'll know what I'm talking about after a few weeks of class).

Pretty much it in a nutshell.

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone heard of this TORTS book?
« on: October 05, 2007, 01:40:16 PM »
West makes a suplement keyed for this case book (see link). It hase case briefs and a skeleton outline for each chapter.

Also, Emanuel has a commercial outline keyed to this case book (see link).

I happen to own both. Helpful for me.


Current Law Students / Re: Non traditional students.......
« on: June 22, 2007, 04:32:30 AM »
I'll turn 37 on the first day of class this fall. Its been about four years since I've been out of grad school, so the routine of classes will take some getting use to. However, I've been studying for the CFA during that time so I've been keeping my mind sharp reading and comprehending large amounts of dense material to take those exams.

Current Law Students / Re: Getting into Derivatives (CDO) law?
« on: June 07, 2007, 09:04:06 AM »
In response to - "thanks a lot for the info, sounds like I'm screwed unless I can land a biglaw job out of law school though." 

Not necessarily. Talking with people within the industry, knowledge of the products is the key. From what I have been told, lawyers may know the law, but many lack an understanding of the products (or finance in general).

You can always obtain a non-legal position within a bank. Getting inside knowledge of these products and how they are traded will satisfy the major requirement they ask for (an understanding of the products). I know of three people, where Iím at that had their JD and worked in rather mundane, non-legal positions. However, it gave them an understanding of OTC derivatives and the how they trade (the ISDA documentation which governs the trading of OTC derivatives). They eventually took in-house positions, in a legal role (sometimes once youíre in, itís easier to move into the role you want). 

As far as big law is concerned, I canít tell you what they are looking for, but look at the profile of some firms that handle that kind of stuff. Ones that come to mind are Winston & Strawn, Kirkland & Ellis and Mayer, Brown, Rowe. They specifically mention this practice area on their website.

Current Law Students / Re: Getting into Derivatives (CDO) law?
« on: June 06, 2007, 08:28:15 AM »
I noticed your post and hope what I know on this will help. I am a 0L too and will be starting school part-time this fall. I also plan on pursuing derivatives law.

For clarification, CDOs fall within an area of finance known as structured securities, so I assume that you would like to work with these products specifically, rather than derivatives at large. If that is the case, I have found that on the legal side, lawyers either serve as outside council for IB (investment banks) structuring these deals or as in-house council for the bank. Below, I have copied a job posting within an IB bank for an in-house attorney. It's explicit as far as what they are looking for (This posting is within Bank of America).

Attorney - Structured Securities Group

Attorney resident in New York providing legal support to the Structured Securities Group (SSG) in Global Corporate and Investment Banking (GCIB).  SSG originates and acts as placement agent for CDO transactions, including cash and synthetic CDOs that are either managed or static.  This position reports to the attorney with coverage responsibility for SSG. 

Required Skills:
This position requires 4 to 6 years of relevant experience, including experience at a top-tier law firm.  This attorney must have excellent risk analysis skills and judgment, legal and regulatory knowledge, structured product and derivatives knowledge, interpersonal skills, and transaction execution skills.  Relevant legal and regulatory knowledge includes a strong background in securities laws and ISDA documentation. 

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