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With a scholarship tied to a specific GPA, it's always good to check out the grading policy of the school to see if the requirement is achievable.

I looked through Chapman's website and found their Student Handbook that outlines their grading policy (see below). Whether a 3.0 is achievable there, I can't say. You might want to talk to some current students to get their take. There might be some floating around, on this board.

Just something else to take into consideration when making your decision.

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Section 4.1.4 (B)

B. MAXIMUM MEDIAN GRADING STANDARDS
A faculty member shall not assign grades in a course with a median average in
excess of the following standards, except as otherwise provided in the ďApplication of
Standards in Special Circumstances.Ē Faculty members may and are encouraged to
assign grades below the maximum median when appropriate in any course.

All courses required to be taken by full-time students in the first year are
subject to a 2.8 maximum median, subject to the following mandatory and
appropriate grade distribution:

Grades Required Range of Grades
3.7 Ė 4.0 0 Ė 15%
0.0 Ė 1.9 At least 10%

For all other courses, the mandatory maximum median grade is a 3.0; exam courses with
twenty (20) or more students require a cumulative 20% of grades to be a 2.4 or lower and
10% to be a 2.2 or lower.

Source: http://www.chapman.edu/law/_files/students/full-pdf-handbook-11-11-16-11.pdf

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Donít dwell on the past. It is what it is and it makes no sense trying to speculate how an admissions committee will view your application. Just focus on what you can (LSAT, personal statement, etc.) and apply when the time comes.

I had a bad background too. I was academically dismissed from the first college I went to. I took eight years off and went back to school. Applied and got into a T2, so anything is possible. You never know how schools will view your situation.

Just be prepared to explain it in your personal statement and provide a compelling reason why things have changed. Thatís all you can do.

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Acceptances / Re: DePaul v. Chicago Kent
« on: April 30, 2012, 04:21:47 PM »
From an administrative standpoint (registration, financial aid, etc.) along with classes are handled in the loop. Everything you need is right there.

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Acceptances / Re: DePaul v. Chicago Kent
« on: April 30, 2012, 04:10:28 PM »
Quote: "I don't like the idea of the main campus being IIT (not a very nice area there, I don't want to dread going to the main campus for my law school). "

As an FYI, Kent is located in the west loop and not at the IIT main campus.

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Non-Traditional Students / Re: JD/MBA
« on: October 26, 2011, 08:31:07 AM »
For starters, having a business related degree in addition to a JD isnít going to magically open doors. What it does is separate you from others, particularly if you have work experience. If you want to practice at a firm, it still boils down to grades/class rank and, depending on the firm, which school you went to. However, your experience in financial services coupled with a good academic record in law school would put you in a good position. You can position yourself as someone who knows (1) how the business world works in general, (2) has an understanding of financial markets and securities and (2) can professional handle clients, along with any other strengths you view yourself as having.

Regarding areas of focus, estates & trust work is a good fit, but from a legal perspective would involve more tax, wills and trust work rather than investment selection. Also donít overlook compliance work. For wealth management, this would involve areas such as AML/KYC and the various securities laws that play a role in that area. I had a classmate who now is a regional compliance manager for a global investment bank. She has an MBA in addition to her JD. This is also a potential way to move in house where you are at, as a lawyer.

The CFA track would also be beneficial in private equity and M&A. Having an understanding of valuations, its impact on financial statements and how impacts the dynamics of the deal go a long way in this area. The key in this area is having an understanding of the economics of the deal. Only then can you accurately assess the legal ramifications that the deal will entail. A CFA track would also be beneficial in capital markets work because of the basic knowledge of financial instruments you would have gained. Depending on whether you at a firm or in house, this would involve a lot of í33 act work and other regulations such as Reg M. 

Finally, if you do pursue a JD begin networking with those layers you interact with. They may provide a door to future employment.

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Non-Traditional Students / Re: JD/MBA
« on: October 25, 2011, 01:16:21 PM »
I'm a 30 yr-old banker in the Chicago area.  I've had my MBA (from a school different from the one for which I would be attending law school) for the past two years and am a Level II CFA candidate.  I recently found out that due to my father's status as a Vietnam vet, I can attend any public university for free, undergrad or grad.  Knowing this, I've done some soul searching and cost-benefit analyses and have decided that I cannot pass this opportunity.

Given my current occupation (some of my clients are attorneys), I know the job market is soft.  My questions for those that have attended LS and are now working are such:  what types of practice will be ideal for me to leverage the experience and education that I already have?  Additionally, will my previous experience even be relevant when looking for employment post-LS?

Any input is gladly appreciated.

D

Are you a banker (as in commercial banking) or in an investment banking sense?

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General Board / Re: Best Way to Learn Civ Pro?
« on: October 17, 2011, 03:20:35 PM »
If you are looking for supplements, may I suggest the below:

http://www.amazon.com/Civil-Procedure-2nd-Richard-Freer/dp/0735578303/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318878525&sr=1-1

It is written with 1Ls in mind. In my opinion, it explains Civ Pro in a manner that helps ties everything together - particularly his discussions on personal jurisdiction. He also conducts the Civ Pro lectures for NY BarBri (at least when I took the course), which are also clear and concise like the book.

If you use the Marcus casebook for class, relevant cases are also discussed in some detail.

It has a hefty price tag, but you might be able to find it in the library.

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General Board / Re: DUI and getting a Bar License
« on: September 22, 2011, 10:55:45 AM »
Regarding your question on how to proceed, the answer is disclose it when you file your C&F application. If you filed a C&F application during 1L, then you will have to amend your application.

As far as how the committee will respond, I canít say. I had one that occurred over 10 years ago. As required, I disclosed it and provided all relevant information on my applications (NY and IL). In both states, I cleared C&F without any problems or delays.

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General Board / Re: leave of absence + loans
« on: December 24, 2009, 08:20:58 AM »
First, you should contact your financial aid office to see if they can provide you specifics concerning your current loans.

Generally repayment begins 6 months after your last enrollment, at least part-time, in school. Check with your loan provider or look at your promissory note and other loan documentation for your lender's specific policy. 

As for your second question, generally you must be enrolled in classes to receive your loan money, as the checks are cut to the school directly. I'm not sure how private loans work, because I don't have any so it may be different for them.

I also believe that if you enroll and latter withdraw from all your classes that any funds received have to be returned. Again, that a generalization I have heard. Your financial aid office would be able to provide the specifics.

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General Board / Re: Chicago-Kent
« on: October 04, 2009, 10:58:45 AM »
I attend Kent part-time. Your workload will be the same as the full time students. You will just take one less class.

As the previous poster mentioned, your workload will consist of assigned reading and whatever else you need to do to understand the class material. In some ways, your workload is not as heavy in the following years, primarily because the first two semesters of legal writing will be out of the way. But that doesn't mean you won't have a heavy work load. I have had classes after first year that have required a lot of time. It just depends on the class.

As an aside, after the first year of legal writing the remaining three semesters aren't bad if you chose the right classes to satisfy the requirement.   

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