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Current Law Students / Re: Question on Tiers...
« on: July 31, 2007, 01:38:09 PM »
If you're not sure you want to go to school this fall, you need to decide soon before you end up in debt for nothing. Of if you are on scholarship, you end up jobless for nothing.

I admire you wanting to do the right thing for your daughter... I think if you were seriously considering a legal career, Penn would be an obvious choice. You'd find the childcare help you needed and your daughter would adjust to a new place. It might be harder in the short term, but the long term rewards stand to be much higher.

Williamette is a good local choice, however, and a good choice for practicing law in your region, though. You and your daughter have the emotional benefit of being in a familiar place and local family support.

Once you have graduated and practiced for a good number of years, where you went to school matters a lot less. What you have done in the time since matters more. The opportunties coming out of Williamette will not be as great as Penn, but you certainly are in an under-served legal market. So the opportunities for a local grad in this market would be greater than a more saturated location like Chicago or NYC.

Good luck with your decision whether or not to attend Williamette this fall. That is the most important decision factor at this stage in the game-- and one you need to make for yourself.
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Current Law Students / Re: How to improve writing?
« on: July 31, 2007, 07:58:10 AM »
The best way to improve your writing is to increase your reading. You have to love to read before you become a truly good writer.

Disagree.  Reading is not the same as writing.  Reading involves recognition, whereas writing involves mostly "reproduction".  One cannot reproduce sometimes, even things he has perfectly memorized.  For example, one can easily distinguish between British and American accent, but often cannot produce both.

I disagree with this disagreement. I submit that writing is simply an extension of reading. And your example about accents is inapplicable because speech is a very different process than thought. Reading and writing occur entirely in our minds. The paper is just recording that process.

Reading a book about writing may be useful, and I can see why an engineer would be inclined to do so (since they learn everything mechanically). However, I am absolutely certain that the best way to improve your prose is to read, enjoy, and reflect upon the prose of others. Don't set out to "learn" how to write better; set out to experience great writing.

Read more and  practice writing.  Transcribing what you read can also help.  You got in with your personal statement, and (if they read it) your writing sample.  The admissions committee thinks your writing is competative with your classmates.  I still think you may be better at it than you think.

Reading the cases, and briefing them everyday may help you as well. 

Current Law Students / Re: How to improve writing?
« on: July 31, 2007, 05:15:53 AM »
how about this book:

Did you read the table of contents?  It seems a little basic to me.  You should just take one of those adult classes  on writing in your neighborhood.  You could also just write something on your own and get your favorite professor to critique the writing.  Practice, practice, practice.  You're probably not as bad off as you think, and I heard legal writing is a totally different animal.

Current Law Students / Re: Question Members
« on: July 30, 2007, 02:51:34 PM »

Pocket to use, hardbound full to sit on my shelf and impress people with how difficult the study of law is.

Exactly!  ;D

Current Law Students / Re: 12 Hours A DAY?
« on: July 28, 2007, 07:40:56 AM »

Current Law Students / Re: Question on Tiers...
« on: July 28, 2007, 07:11:47 AM »
I think you made a good decision based on your needs, and your goals.  :) What they think on this board does not matter.  You really shouldn't concern yourself with snobbery.  That is the norm for any profession, and in all walks of life. If that bothers you you're going to have a tough time in everything you do.  I'm sure the rest of them could care less about what you think of thier choices. 

I didn't pay attention to the ranking until I got acceptances.  I based my choices on my personal goals.  I'd say about 10% of the Profs at my school whent to my school, and maybe 20% Harvard, and Yale.  Everyone where I live (Philly) went to Temple, Villanova, Dickinson, and Penn in that order of choice.  I was told by close friends who are practicing attorneys in big law, and solo to avoid Penn if I want to be a big shot in Philly.  Mind you I'm a non-trad as well, so my situation is somewhat unique.  I already have an established business, and a legal client list for when I graduate (If I go solo right away).

The best business managers will look beyond the school you went to, read your sample writing, and insist on meeting you.  I wouldn't want to work with or for someone who's dumb enough to assume I am intelligent just because I went to a T14 (or for non lawyers - L.S.).  That's bad mojo.

My first thought was that it might have something to do with understanding crimes, torts, defenses, etc., by understanding their elements.  For example, common law larceny has several elements: (1) trespassory (2) taking and (3) carrying away of (4) the property of another with (5) intent to steal.  Or negligence: (1) duty, (2) breach, (3) causation, (4) damages.  And so on.  This was a big part of our Criminal Law class, so maybe your school teaches it as a foundation for Crim Law, or something.
Naw, you're way off base.  It's a study of the rise and fall of Earth, Wind, and Fire

Just in case you might want to brush up on your astrology, and wizardry. ;)

Current Law Students / Re: Confused
« on: July 17, 2007, 02:43:04 PM »
I need some advice. I recently broke up with my boyfriend of one year. I willbe moving across the country for law school in about one month. Today he asked if its ok to be friends with benefits until I go. I really want to do it. Any reason why I shouldnt? I figure its just a month and Im out of the state anyways. Any thoughts?
Bright Idea.  Risk getting pregnant with someone you're not interested in and interrupting (or ending) your legal education.  What are you a dog?  Only animals can't resist the urge to F**k. 


Current Law Students / Re: mediocre GPA/rank but on law review
« on: July 16, 2007, 02:18:20 PM »
I may get flamed for this, but...whatever.  Biglaw jobs are just like any other job.  They aren't run by massive titans looking down at you from high vantage points and they aren't run by a secret society that has checklists or balance scales which determine your fate. 

There are certain things which help (GPA, law review, moot court), but a lot of it has to do with how you interview and your actual ability.  Apply to for the jobs you want, do the best you can and don't look back.

The answers that you get here aren't indicative of the reality of the world, but only of the numbers and statistics that have either been recorded or made up. (did you know 34% of all statistics are made up?) In the words of Harry Belafonte, "don't worry, be happy."
LOL...  I heard it was more like 34% at T4 and 15% at T25

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