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Current Law Students / Sum and Substance CDs
« on: May 07, 2006, 03:26:05 PM »
How helpful are they? I got a few really cheap, and I've started listening to the Civil Procedure lectures (Arthur Miller has a pretty good sense of humor, and he makes it entertaining). But I'm beginning to wonder whether this will just confuse me if the professors teach the classes in different ways. Or are there certain key rules and cases that will be common in all 1L classes?

Current Law Students / Register for BarBri as 1L?
« on: May 04, 2006, 04:58:37 AM »
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I'm wondering if it makes sense to register for Barbri as a 1L. Locking in a lower rate sounds nice, though there's plenty of things to spend my limited money on in my first year of law school. Are the law school course materials provided by Barbri helpful?

Current Law Students / Current GW students
« on: May 03, 2006, 01:32:46 PM »
I'll be starting GW this fall. I'm really psyched for it, but obviously don't know what to expect. If anyone who currently attends GW is on this board, please post any professor reviews, tips, or words of caution that you wish you received before 1L.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 04:30:23 PM »
This study schedule worked very well for me as an evening student working full time: every weekday, I studied for an hour or two in the morning before work. And then I studied about 8-10 hours/Saturday and Sunday.
There is a contingent of immature students who act like they're at a three-year frat party. But that's a small number. Most are very interesting and friendly and mature.
In-house counsel jobs are pretty rare in general for students straight out of school. You usually should get a few years' experience at a firm and then switch over to in-house.

What is your study schedule? Can you provide the approximate study schedule of someone you know that performed well beit full time or part time for anectdotal sake. I am 28 and am assuming you are mid to late 20s with that being said is the culture of the school severely lacking a mature element? Have you spent anytime in OCI? If so are there in-house counsel opportunities.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 01:53:33 PM »
I'm glad to answer any questions about Georgetown. I went in blind - didn't know anyone who had gone to GULC, and it would have been nice to have been able to ask questions.

I don't know much about the 1L job hunt, because I'm an evening student and already work full time during the day. I do know that a fair amount of people got summer firm jobs. That's why your first-semester grades are so damn important.

In terms of what differentiates the great students from the not so great? You know, I'm really not sure. One thing I can tell you for sure: you can NOT judge a person's performance on exams by the quality of their class participation. If anything, the people who talk the most are the least informed (this is a plea to all 0L's to NOT become gunners). I guess the one major differentiator is work ethic. There are plenty of students who treat it as a three-year extension of college - bar every night, IMing during class, etc. Unlike undergrad, your grades in law school mean EVERYTHING. Don't be a jerk and be relaxed, but you do have to take it seriously and study harder than you ever have before.

Thanks for the comments. You do realize this is about to turn into a Gtown question thread. Hopefully you don't mind being charitable. Anyway, what kind of luck do 1Ls have finding summer positions? Also, with Gtown attracting loads of talented and smart students what separates the great ones from the bad and whats separates the marginal from the great??

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 01:22:40 PM »
That's definitely not the case. I'd never be defeatist about it. Some people will just do better on exams because they can write and think quickly and "get" legal concepts. But if you want to do well, you will bust your butt studying and preparing for exams from the first day of class. Professors, at least the ones I had, put a good amount of effort into grading fairly.

Hey it has always been said often times there is no rhyme or reason to how grades are distributed. In preparation for your exams at Gtown have you taken a some what "defeatist" approach in that you will do the best you can, but ultimately you have no control over your own fate in terms of grades.

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 12:51:29 PM »
Never had any of them, but I know Perdue and can assure you that she'll be an excellent professor (well, as excellent as CivPro can be). She wrote the leading textbook, and she's also just a very nice person. Both of the LRW profs are great also.

CivPro: Perdue
Property: Ernst
Ks: Vukowich
Torts: Mikhail

LR&W: either Shulman or Tiscione
ConLaw: either Schneiderman, Wales, Cashin, or Lederman

Some of them are visiting. I've heard good things about Ernst and Perdue. Had any of them?

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 12:43:34 PM »
which profs do you have for your other classes?

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Gtown vs T14
« on: July 17, 2007, 12:22:21 PM »
I'm in the evening section, but it's the same for full-time as well. You won't know who your conlaw or LRW professor is until the first day of orientation, when you get a big packet that includes your course schedule. You don't register for them - it's randomly assigned.

Within each section, there will be four small conlaw classes (about 30 students each) and two 60-student LRW classes. Also, each LRW class meets twice a week. One of the classes is all 60 students, taught by a prof. The other one is smaller sections of 8-10 students, and that's taught by an upperclassman.

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