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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: May 02, 2007, 10:38:46 AM »
Hey guys...

I'm currently a 1L at Temple finishing up finals.  If you guys have any questions regarding where to live, places to hang out, etc etc... feel free to ask away.  I'm gonna use this as my procrastination tool, haha.

A few things... to the KC guy... i'm from TN (home to superior ribs)...i can show you all the places to get ribs in this town, haha... i also make my own mean slab.

... Temple's average age is always 26... i think they factor in the evening division which is inherently older... all my friends are between the ages of 19-26.  I'm 23 so it's probably a self selective crowd.  If you're a youngin', you won't feel weird.

Center City is the place to live (although alot of students live in the art museum area).  I'd stick to places that are close to the ORANGE line (which runs north to the law school).  If you get a roommate, rent is not unbearable.  If you have questions about areas of town... just leave a line. 

Enjoy your pre-law experience.

KC Barbecue is superior...no doubt about it. They each have their own unique style, but I prefer the KC version for obvious reasons. Quick question for you. How has the first year summer job search worked out for you and for others in the class? Do the majority of students find summer work?

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Temple / Re: Temple Law aesthetics or lack thereof
« on: April 26, 2007, 06:37:04 PM »

Born and raised in the KC area (Lenexa) and went to undergraduate at KU. Lived in Oregon for a few years after that and now I'm in New Mexico. What are you doing in KS? 

Right now... slacking at work ;)  No, I'm working as a web developer at a small telecom firm in OP. The company actually just moved to their current location from Lenexa.

Are you as die hard about the Chiefs as everyone else here? I mean holy cow! I came here from Denver and wore a Broncos shirt to a Chiefs game. It was a bad mistake.

I've been here for about 3 years now and met some people. Did you know anybody from Blue Valley Northwest HS?

I like the Chiefs, but i'm certainly no die-hard fan. My dad used to have season tickets so I went to every game in the 90's. They've let me down so many times it's hard to take them serious anymore. I'm a bigger Royals fan because I know they are going to suck every year so they never let me down.

I know quite a few people from BVNW, but most of the folks I know graduated between 1998-2000 and only a couple of them still live in the area. Some things you need to do before you move from the KC area (assuming you haven't already done them):

1. Oklahoma Joes BBQ (the original location on Mission)
2. Arthur Bryants BBQ (the original location on Brooklyn Ave.)
3. Gates BBQ (preferably the Main location)
4. Great Lenexa BBQ Battle (June 22-24 & be sure to go on Friday when they give out samples)

That's about it. If you're going to Temple we can hang out in Philly and I'll smoke up a few slabs of ribs. Man...I miss barbecue.

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Temple / Re: Temple Law aesthetics or lack thereof
« on: April 26, 2007, 04:59:06 PM »
Has anyone noticed that the Temple law school website and viewbooks are not nearly as impressive as some from much less respected schools (i.e. "third tier")? And, it's not just the appearance -- it's also relatively hard to find information on the Temple website; and the viewbooks are pretty thin and lacking in detail.

It can be hard to overlook these weaknesses and seek out the hard facts that really matter. Do you think these "marketing" issues help explain why Temple's "conversion" rate is relatively low? (The percentage of admitted students who actually enroll is lower than most schools I've considered.)

As far as the aesthetics of the website and viewbooks... Do you think there's any relationship to the very, very plain appearance of the facilities? Is this a Philadelphia thing? Is style just less important in Philly?

Of course, since I like Temple and plan to attend, I like to think these factors are weeding out people who are too easily influenced by those things, thereby resulting in a better, smarter student body.


You should see Seton Hall's correspondence. They don't even have brochures (I haven't received any yet anyway) and the only thing they've sent me other than a letter or payment form has been an extremely basic Excel printout of the 1l calendar.

Here, look at their website. (http://law.shu.edu/).

Anyway, I'll most likely be attending TU as well. I'm WL at American and, since my interest is int'l, I'll go there if I finally get accepted. However, if I don't I'm still fired up about TU.

Anybody, in here from CO or KS or GA? I'm from GA went to college in CO and currently reside in KS.

Born and raised in the KC area (Lenexa) and went to undergraduate at KU. Lived in Oregon for a few years after that and now I'm in New Mexico. What are you doing in KS? 

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Temple / Re: Notable Temple Law Alumni
« on: April 26, 2007, 02:07:11 PM »
Clair Huxtable???

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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 24, 2007, 12:21:43 PM »
My final six included Boston University, Brooklyn, Iowa, Kansas, Temple, and WUSTL. I felt that Temple gave me the best balance of quality + debt management...plus the whole girlfriend thing. 

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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:08:56 AM »
I know most people have already decided to attend Temple.  With that in mind, is anyone else concerned about the at graduation employment rate - Temple's being 65%.  9 months after grad employment rate is 95%  Theyre not bad, but i feel like those are not spectacular either. 

I'm not worried.

Why.

The nine month stats aren't too bad, but the at graduation stats are a bit shaky. I have accepted the fact that it is going to be difficult to find a decent legal job unless I build a sweet resume. Many students don't realize this horrible fact until after graduation, I know this going in so I'm prepared for the struggle and hopefully I succeed. I chose Temple because they offered me a good scholarship, my girlfriend got into medical school in Philly, and I think it's a high-quality school with good placement in the area. Just know that you'll have to excel academically or you may well have a hell of a time finding a job. 

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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 23, 2007, 01:58:37 PM »
I know most people have already decided to attend Temple.  With that in mind, is anyone else concerned about the at graduation employment rate - Temple's being 65%.  9 months after grad employment rate is 95%  Theyre not bad, but i feel like those are not spectacular either. 

I'm not worried.

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Temple / Re: Temple Law aesthetics or lack thereof
« on: April 23, 2007, 01:51:24 PM »
Has anyone noticed that the Temple law school website and viewbooks are not nearly as impressive as some from much less respected schools (i.e. "third tier")? And, it's not just the appearance -- it's also relatively hard to find information on the Temple website; and the viewbooks are pretty thin and lacking in detail.

It can be hard to overlook these weaknesses and seek out the hard facts that really matter. Do you think these "marketing" issues help explain why Temple's "conversion" rate is relatively low? (The percentage of admitted students who actually enroll is lower than most schools I've considered.)

As far as the aesthetics of the website and viewbooks... Do you think there's any relationship to the very, very plain appearance of the facilities? Is this a Philadelphia thing? Is style just less important in Philly?

Of course, since I like Temple and plan to attend, I like to think these factors are weeding out people who are too easily influenced by those things, thereby resulting in a better, smarter student body.


I haven't paid too much attention to the aesthetics of the Temple Law website or viewbooks and I don't know enough about the city of Philadelphia to determine whether or not the Temple Law presentation is a reflection of Philadelphia style. I have visited the campus and Klein Hall seems to be a highly modern and efficient piece of architecture without many bells or whistles. Upon researching the building I noticed that it was built in 1972 to replace the old law building that was destroyed by fire. Taking this into account, I would guess that Klein Hall was built hastily without much regard for style/content in order to replace the old building and to get the Law School back up and running following the fire.

As for the website, I have found it to be one of the most informative and easily navigable of all the schools I applied (I didn't apply to any T3 schools). It's not the prettiest thing in the world, but I think this is more of a funcion of the unflattering school colors , not design choice/layout.

Finally, Temple seems to have more area-specific viewbooks than most schools. Thus far I have received the general viewbook, the trial advocacy viewbook, the international law viewbook, the intellectual property viewbook, and the faculty publication viewbook. As viewbooks go, they aren't overly-informative nor have I found them lacking information. They didn't answer all the questions, but then again that's impossible.     

Overall, I don't think it is possible to draw any conclusions about the quality of a law school from the quality of their public relations materials. I did, however, kill some minutes at work by taking the time to reply to this post. 

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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 20, 2007, 03:27:37 PM »
350?  did you pay both deposits already?

Yeah, I went ahead and paid both deposits. The checks have been outstanding for about two weeks now following the email from the admissions department that confirmed their receipt. I went ahead and called Temple and they said they have to send the checks over to some other general University department before they get cashed so it can take a while. 

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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 20, 2007, 11:07:38 AM »
Are they ever going to cash my seat deposit check or do they wait until tuition is due? I hate having outstanding checks, especially outstanding checkes for $350.00.

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