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Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: May 09, 2007, 02:35:51 PM »
... in that neighborhood it is actually quite cheap, a one bd around there will easily go for $1300 and up- you can do a bit better in art museum and wash sq. west but not much, I would really consider the average cheap studio to be around $700-900, cheap one bd to be from $850-1100, two bds can be found between $1150-1400.

you're going to have a hard time getting anything cheaper than that right now, imo...

my rents $975 for a 1 bd and people are amazed by how cheap my apartment is when I tell them.

rent's not cheap in the city ::shrugs::

You can find pretty good two-bedroom apartments for $1,100 or less in the northwest part of the city and other places further out from Center City. I don't know how much cheaper one-bedrooms are.

You can live in Mount Airy or Roxborough or East Falls or Chestnut Hill and ride the SEPTA regional rail in to Temple in a reasonable amount of time (especially from East Falls). If you need lower rent and/or more space and/or want to avoid the most urban part of the city, those neighborhoods seem like good options to me.

Temple / Temple Law blogs and podcasts
« on: May 03, 2007, 07:28:27 AM »
If you know of any blogs or podcasts by Temple Law students, faculty, alumni, etc., please post the links here.

Temple / Notable Temple Law Alumni
« on: April 26, 2007, 01:35:46 PM »
Does anyone have a good list of Temple Law alumni in prominent or impressive positions?

I'm thinking of elected government positions, or important or interesting appointed positions, or high ranking agency officials (federal, state or local), or corporate executives, or equity partners in major law firms, or judges at various levels. But, there may be other notable alumni in other fields/positions too.

Here's my own list of current Pennsylvania state legislature members:

Pennsylvania State Senate

Patrick M. Browne '93 (R) Senate District 16

Vincent J. Fumo (D) '72 Senate District 1

John C. Rafferty Jr. '88 (R)  Senate District 44

Pennsylvania House of Representatives

Kathy Manderino '89 (Democrat)
Montgomery County (Part)
Philadelphia County (Part)

Bryan R. Lentz '93 (Democrat)
Delaware County (Part)

Temple / Visiting Philly
« on: April 25, 2007, 03:03:27 PM »
Is anyone interested in meeting for lunch to talk about the law school, neighborhoods, or life in general? My wife and I will be visiting Philly soon -- May 5 through May 8 -- to look at apartments. It would be nice to meet another Temple law school student (incoming, current, or alum).

Some info about us... I'm going to be one of the older students at Temple -- let's say mid-thirties. We have a child, with another on the way. My wife's almost a decade younger than me. I'll be in the part-time evening program. I'm considering transferring to full-time after the first year, but we'll have to see how things go.

To contact me, just use the little e-mail icon over there to the left of this text, a little below the user name area. Or, use the "Personal Message" (PM) feature of this website message board. There's another little icon for that over there by the e-mail icon.

Temple / RE: I chose Temple over...
« on: April 24, 2007, 02:24:37 PM »
pitt, wisconsin, maryland.

What made you choose Temple over those others? I'm especially interested in what you might know about Wisconsin, since I'm still waiting on a decision from there. I'll probably stick with Temple regardless.

With Pittsburgh vs. Temple, I'm guessing the deciding factor is just which city you prefer. Or was it something else?

Temple / RE: I chose Temple over...
« on: April 24, 2007, 02:20:20 PM »
My final six included Boston University, Brooklyn, Iowa, Kansas, Temple, and WUSTL. I felt that Temple gave me the best balance of quality + debt the whole girlfriend thing. 

That's a pretty impressive list of schools to choose from. Based on those admits, I don't think you're going to beat me out of the least-qualified-student-at-Temple honor.  :)

Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 24, 2007, 02:15:26 PM »
mt airy and germantown in general are not that nice. there are pockets that are nice.. commuting to temple via public transportation would be kinda annoying from those neighborhoods as well.

Can you explain why the public transportation from those areas is difficult? Are you talking about the regional rail lines?

Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 24, 2007, 12:00:23 PM »
pitt, wisconsin, maryland.

I dont think anywhere near 35% of the class go for public interest, so i dont think that would account for the lower employment @ grad rate.  Im pretty sure clerkships are set before graduation. 

8% go into public interest and 11% into government. I'd assume most of those have to be hired after the applicant passes the bar (because of employer policies/needs), so that's about 19% of Temple grads who don't have a shot at the "at graduation" jobs. In that light, 35% of Temple grads waiting a while to secure jobs doesn't seem so bad.

Temple / I chose Temple over...
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:55:10 AM »
Which schools did you turn down in order to attend the Beasley School of Law at Temple Univeristy? Why?

I guess the only other schools I could call contenders for my tuition would have been:
  • Penn State Dickinson
  • Albany Law School (scholarship offer)
  • Michigan State
  • Drake University

I know you think some of those are crazy to even consider in Temple's league, but they have some positive qualities (and I really like the town of Albany).

It has been a fairly easy decision at this point. I have a long list of schools where I've been admitted, but none of them come close to Temple in reputation/ranking and job placement/salary. For example, in ratings from lawyers and judges in the U.S. News rankings, Temple scored a 3.2 this year. The only other schools on my "admitted" list that come close to that are Penn State and Michigan State. Penn State is in temporary facilities for at least the next two years. After visiting the school, I just could not see myself learning well in that environment. Michigan State does not have very good job placement numbers. Plus, I don't have any special reason to live in Michigan.

Also, I think the Temple salary number is important, even if you don't plan to aim for the highest paying big law firm jobs. If 25% of Temple grads make $115k, then the most selective (biggest) firms are hiring a lot of Temple grads. That bodes well for people aiming for small or midsized firms as well.

Of course, there are plenty of other things I like about Temple, but I won't go into all that here.

Temple / Re: Temple Class of 2010 (entering in Fall 2007)
« on: April 24, 2007, 11:15:25 AM »
I know most people have already decided to attend Temple.  With that in mind, is anyone else concerned about the at graduation employment rate - Temple's being 65%.  9 months after grad employment rate is 95%  Theyre not bad, but i feel like those are not spectacular either. 

I'm not worried.


The nine month stats aren't too bad, but the at graduation stats are a bit shaky. I have accepted the fact that it is going to be difficult to find a decent legal job unless I build a sweet resume. Many students don't realize this horrible fact until after graduation, I know this going in so I'm prepared for the struggle and hopefully I succeed. I chose Temple because they offered me a good scholarship, my girlfriend got into medical school in Philly, and I think it's a high-quality school with good placement in the area. Just know that you'll have to excel academically or you may well have a hell of a time finding a job. 

And, that one-third of the graduates who don't have jobs at graduation probably includes many of the students who want to work in public interest, government, prosecution or public defender jobs. Those jobs typically don't hire until after you pass the bar, from what I've heard/read. And, Temple does have a disproportionate number of those types of students, I think.

Another factor I wonder about is the number of students going into clerkships. Are clerkships typically filled before graduation? I would think so. But, if not, that also holds down the at-graduation jobs number.

Just out of curiosity... Which schools were people on this board considering with better job placement numbers?

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