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Current Law Students / Re: 2L SA Advice?
« on: April 12, 2007, 07:08:55 PM »
I would greatly appreciate this as well...

Current Law Students / Re: 1L internships
« on: April 10, 2007, 12:37:14 PM »
Obtaining any kind of paid legal work is very difficult your 1L summer.  The most coveted jobs are summer associate positions at large firms which can pay up to $3k/week.  School rank, grades, and connections are very important in obtaining one of these positions, and most students (even at T14 schools) don't get them.

Most 1L's are lucky to obtain an unpaid internship with a judge, PI organization, RA for a professor, or a $10-12/hr position with a smaller firm.

Current Law Students / Re: Working on Easter-who's with me?
« on: April 08, 2007, 02:13:22 PM »
I've been working on my Ks outline all day, about to start doing my reading for tomorrow

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone do law preview?
« on: April 05, 2007, 09:34:57 AM »
As to your argument that since you were smart enough to get in, you don't need to prepare, I would respond that because intelligence is innate, your argument could be pushed to birth . . . a little baby with the potential to do well in law school need not prepare . . . need not learn english, go to elementary school, etc  . ..  just plop them down at harvard and let their natural abilities take over. That's absurd!

Nice strawman

Further, even if you're right, your argument holds true for EVERYONE who got into school X, but law school students are ranked and competitive with one another. Thus, just being good enough to get in and pass is not nearly sufficient for success.

Another strawman

Hough I don't currently attend law school,

Thats pretty obvious

there are many books out right now that contend that the latter is right and your position about law schools assuming we know nothing and leading us down a prim rose path to legal knowledge in a supporting and encouraging way is not.

Wow, another strawman.  Since you're a 0L, I don't think you're in a position to be lecturing any student on this board about lawschool.  You'd be a lot better served by closing your mouth, opening your ears, and maybe learning something from people who actually know what they're talking about.

Current Law Students / Re: I don't like appellate briefs
« on: April 01, 2007, 08:58:41 PM »
I'm still ecstatic that I turned in my appellate brief last week, and now LRW is over FOREVER! Of course, now its time to get to work on studying for finals  >:(

Current Law Students / Re: Does being in law school make you paranoid?
« on: March 29, 2007, 08:56:58 PM »
You're not paranoid if people are really plotting to destroy you.

Current Law Students / Re: applying, what can law schools see?
« on: March 24, 2007, 11:26:32 PM »
Yep.  They'll deny your bar application for failing to do disclose that faster than you can say "I just wasted three years of my life."

Current Law Students / Re: Appalachian..Florida Coastal...Barry Law..
« on: March 24, 2007, 09:32:43 AM »

Current Law Students / Re: How much debt does everyone have?
« on: March 23, 2007, 08:58:41 AM »
I'll have between 35 and 50k for lawschool/ugrad combined (depending on how much I save from my summers).

Current Law Students / Re: Where does the bottom 50% end up?
« on: March 20, 2007, 09:26:57 PM »
Common shenanigans employed by CSOs to inflate their statistics:

HYPO STATS: Wow, 96% of the class is employed 9 months after graduation.  75% of the class is in the private sector, making an average of 90k!

Reporting Rate -  Sounds great until you read the fine print that only 30% of graduates responded to the survey. 

Document Review - Many schools count people employed on temporary doc review projects in their "employed", and extrapolate what they would earn annually if it was a permanent job.  That ignores the fact that the project may only last a few weeks and it'll take another month to get on another one.  Doc review pays good money (because you get overtime), so this inflates their salary and employment numbers.

Non-legal employment - One of the earlier posters is correct that 9 months out, most graduates are employed.  Whether they are employed by law firms is a completely different matter.  Once those loan sharks from Sally Mae show up 6 months out demanding their monthly take, you'll damned well take whatever job you can to keep the wolves from the door.  And forget bankruptcy - you're saddled with that debt FOR LIFE until you pay it off.  Go to to read what happens if you default.

My 2 cents, based on what I've observed, FWIW

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