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Current Law Students / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: January 17, 2007, 07:58:30 PM »
because of my background, i'm looking at government employers regardless.  i mean, a gs-12 starts around 75K i believe.  the hours are reasonable, the benefits are great, and once you get into the civil service system, you cant be dislodged with nuclear weapons

Do they start you at GS12 though?   I thought you started at 11 tops. 

i'm almost certain you start at a 12.  however, i definitely could be wrong....

I read most of that federal government pamphlet on the ABA site and some other sites as well and I can't recall seeing many,  if any positions that started out at GS-12. I looked at one position that started you out at GS-11 and moved you up to GS-12 once you pass the bar exam, so maybe that's what you're thinking of?

from my section, honors in legal writing seemed to be inversely correlated to making top 10% in other grades. Granted, it's honors/pass/fail, but I'm starting to think the "S+" in legal writing might have detracted from the other classes for the kids who got the honors. None of the top 5 in my section of 100 got honors. That's when I stopped worrying about it. My prof failed 15% of our class so they'll be retaking next year, and are now 1 yr behind on the 3 consecutive semester writing courses required at my law school.

I don't think that's necessarily the case that the people who do well in legal writing don't pay as much attention to other classes. I think it's more that legal writing and writing for exams require different skills/abilities. Someone who does well writing legal exams can spot and analyze legal issues quickly and write about them in a clear and concise manner under timed conditions. People who do well in legal writing may do better when they can spread their work out over a period of time and come back to it. I know this is the case for me. While I don't necessarily spend more time on legal writing than other people, I cannot sit down and write a good memo or brief in one go.

Current Law Students / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: January 16, 2007, 06:14:48 PM »
Don't listen to Dan. Most people coming out of T1 schools have jobs lined up after graduation that pay more than $50K. The key is to try to do your best this semester to get your grades up. Talk to professors about what you did wrong on your exams and talk to successful upperclassmen and graduates about what they did to do so well. Finally, start networking now.

Job Search / Re: Drinking and 2L SA's
« on: January 15, 2007, 06:28:03 PM »
I don't think its a problem.  As Lenny said, just don't make a big deal out of it one way or another.

If you do happen to feel uncomfortable, just ask for the coke in the same glass as the mixed drinks are served in, and ask for a lime on the rim.  No one will know the difference.

I totally agree. It's not a big deal unless you make it a big deal.

If you are in a group ordering situation and someone says "You aren't drinking?" I would say "I don't feel like it right now" and move on, not give a philosophical or medical explanation.

As nice as that sounds, you'd be surprised at how curious people often get about it. Usually it's just "Have a sip," or "You don't need to drink that much," so people who really can't drink anything have to explain why. People are usually fine with it after I explain, but in a larger workplace it can take a while for people to identify you as someone who can't/doesn't drink.

Current Law Students / Re: Who else is dying to see their grades?
« on: January 04, 2007, 03:24:44 PM »
Checked again today.. all grades gone - got an e-mail telling me to wait till next week. Of course they also sent out an e-mail telling us all grades were supposed to be in last week.

Still.. at least the C's weren't real.


Oh dang, I'm really sorry! I have one grade so far and am still listed at having received 0 credits. If it makes you feel any better it's nothing to write home about either.

Phew, glad to hear it!

Cesco- congrats on your A- that's fantastic!

Current Law Students / Re: Who else is dying to see their grades?
« on: January 03, 2007, 04:50:28 PM »
I know that my school gets grades out late, but I am already checking at least once a day, and it's only the beginning of January!  Anyone else just going nuts waiting to find out?

Bah, I wrote the lady who manages the grade release system at my school last night.. a nice little note.. today I checked my grades page and I have a C in every class - but no credits earned or classes removed from the list of "in progress" grades. I'm praying that she just has one sick sense of humor. (the e-mail was nice and everything too!!)


Oh dang, I'm really sorry! I have one grade so far and am still listed at having received 0 credits. If it makes you feel any better it's nothing to write home about either.

Current Law Students / Re: 6 weeks in.
« on: October 03, 2006, 05:27:16 AM »
I'm really enjoying my classes as well. My professors are engaging and I like the material. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm actually loving law school itself. I've been out of undergrad for quite a while and go to a school with very few nontrads, so sometimes I find it a bit hard to relate to the students who have never really worked a real job before.

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