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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Sub-3.5 Support Group
« on: June 22, 2006, 10:23:45 AM »
Talk about a small world -- Googler, was this at the hotel school?  I now know precisely who you are.  Not only was I at that event, I went out to dinner with Mr. Hightower and Lowell afterwards. 

Hmm, it was during Union Days (probably around mid-April).  The next day, I went to a speech by the president of HERE.  One was in the Statler, the other in Ives 305, although I don't remember which was which. 

But that's amazing that you remember this speech from two years ago.  I only remember due to his accusing me of "bleeding propaganda." 

What was he like in a small setting?  Did you go to Banfi's or something?

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Perhaps we run in different circles, but last time I got lost while driving, I didn't get out of my car, trespass onto somebody else's property, and proceed to start firing my handgun at other people who happened to be on his property at 4:30 in the morning. 

Don't be obtuse. The guy is firing buckshot towards the street. I'm talking INNOCENT BYSTANDERS.

At 4:30 in the morning?  Give me a f-ing break. 

Yeah, luckily there were none.

What if thirty kids were out there on his lawn, after a raucous party? Then two pulled guns and started shooting at each other, and everyone else? Do you sanction Mr. Gates firing into the crowd of 30 to hit 2?

How many innocents would you kill to get one criminal?

Okay, I'm done with this debate.  I seriously feel stupider for having responded seriously to your posts.

Good night. 

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Perhaps we run in different circles, but last time I got lost while driving, I didn't get out of my car, trespass onto somebody else's property, and proceed to start firing my handgun at other people who happened to be on his property at 4:30 in the morning. 

Don't be obtuse. The guy is firing buckshot towards the street. I'm talking INNOCENT BYSTANDERS.

At 4:30 in the morning?  Give me a f-ing break. 

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No, it is not okay to stand on the porch and fire at random people in the neighborhood.  It IS okay to fire on people trespassing on your land at 4:30 AM, ESPECIALLY if they're having a shootout.

Hey, i'm feeling generous. One night only -- I'll even grant you that it's A-OK to execute criminals in your front lawn, assuming you know that's what they are. And I'll grant that he knew. So, you're safe.

Nonetheless, I still have a problem with people firing shotguns into the dark. What if a kid was nearby? What if one of the guys was trying to talk the shooters out of it? What if your parents were driving by?

Even granting your conditions, I still don't agree that vigilanteism is the answer. So it went right this time. What if he'd killed someone you know?

That argument can be applied to anything.  By that logic, the police should never be allowed to fire their weapons in public, because they might hit someone nearby.  Responsible people can assess the risk and decide whether it is safe to fire on the people posing a threat to them.

So now that you consider his actions vigilantism, what would you propose he do?  Call for help, wait while some idiot 911 dispatcher decides if the call is a prank or not, and then quietly wait in the corner with his wife while the cops show up 10 minutes later?  And in the interim, what if one of the bullets comes through the window and hits his wife? 

Look, the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no affirmative obligation to protect you.  You are on your own when criminals are in your midst. 

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Maybe it's different in the socialist republic from which you hail, but in this country (at least the real parts of it) you can't have a shootout in someone else's front yard. 

Well, let's be a little careful, here.

By your reasoning, it's perfectly fine to grab your shotgun and stand on your porch, firing into the street because you're sick and tired of all the violence in your neighborhood.

Yet, the people he shot were not doing that -- because they happened to have their feet located in HIS yard. So if they were standing on their OWN porches -- say across the street, firing at him -- then that's fine, right?

You cannot possibly be this stupid.  No way. 

He isn't.  Don't respond when to a flame when it doesn't make any sense whatsoever...

I should have heeded your advice. 

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And if your parents were lost, took a wrong turn -- I'm SURE you've read Bonfire -- driving down Mr. Gates' street, and were killed in their car when he fired into the night, I'm sure you'd be just as understanding?

Gunned down by a black man on his porch in a bad neighborhood? Or was he a real honest American trying to protect his family?

Be honest, if you dare.

Perhaps we run in different circles, but last time I got lost while driving, I didn't get out of my car, trespass onto somebody else's property, and proceed to start firing my handgun at other people who happened to be on his property at 4:30 in the morning. 


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Maybe it's different in the socialist republic from which you hail, but in this country (at least the real parts of it) you can't have a shootout in someone else's front yard. 

Well, let's be a little careful, here.

By your reasoning, it's perfectly fine to grab your shotgun and stand on your porch, firing into the street because you're sick and tired of all the violence in your neighborhood.

Yet, the people he shot were not doing that -- because they happened to have their feet located in HIS yard. So if they were standing on their OWN porches -- say across the street, firing at him -- then that's fine, right?

I don't know why I'm entertaining this nonsense.

No, it is not okay to stand on the porch and fire at random people in the neighborhood.  It IS okay to fire on people trespassing on your land at 4:30 AM, ESPECIALLY if they're having a shootout.

I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that they could fire at him from their own houses. 

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Maybe it's different in the socialist republic from which you hail, but in this country (at least the real parts of it) you can't have a shootout in someone else's front yard. 

Well, let's be a little careful, here.

By your reasoning, it's perfectly fine to grab your shotgun and stand on your porch, firing into the street because you're sick and tired of all the violence in your neighborhood.

Yet, the people he shot were not doing that -- because they happened to have their feet located in HIS yard. So if they were standing on their OWN porches -- say across the street, firing at him -- then that's fine, right?

You cannot possibly be this stupid.  No way. 

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Edit: William Gates is black. 

Whaa! Microsoft stock sheds 40% overnight!

Don't invoke the man's color to excuse the ridiculousness of the situation. It's relativism, pure and simple. I bet he went out and searched those kids for drugs before opening fire!

Haha.  Ha.  Haha...  pathetic response.  quite frankly.  not even funny.

Yeah, his post was seriously the stupidest thing I've seen all week. 

Just like him though, to defend criminal pieces of *&^% and to villify real honest Americans who try to protect their family. 

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Edit: William Gates is black. 

Whaa! Microsoft stock sheds 40% overnight!

Don't invoke the man's color to excuse the ridiculousness of the situation. It's relativism, pure and simple. I bet he went out and searched those kids for drugs before opening fire!

Maybe it's different in the socialist republic from which you hail, but in this country (at least the real parts of it) you can't have a shootout in someone else's front yard. 

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