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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Burnout Advice
« on: September 27, 2008, 04:05:12 PM »
Lol.  Actually, a 163 LSAT is probably enough to get you in to every Canadian law school except UofT.

And given the price of all beer in Canada, only the foolish would opt to have a Blue light.

1. 163 isn't enough.

2. I don't quite understand the crux of the beer comment. Beer here is much more expensive than in the US or Europe. Blue is disgusting, but if you're on a budget domestic/American beer is the way to go.

Maybe he means all beer is expensive, so you may as well drink good stuff.

What Canadian brew do you like?  I'm a fan of the Golden myself.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Burnout Advice
« on: September 27, 2008, 04:03:56 PM »

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I didn't read the entire post, and it may be very helpful, but I would just caution against using the generic term "Assumptions" to refer to Necesary Assumption Q's.

There are two types of Assumption Q's -- Necessary and Sufficient.  One should always be specific about which type they're referring to, as there's often a good deal of confusion surrounding the two.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Importance of the very most recent preptests?
« on: September 27, 2008, 03:57:01 PM »
You should definitely do some of the most recent preptests, as there have in fact been various changes.

Generally, I would advise skipping the pre-95 (first 10) tests altogether, and focusing mainly on the 3rd book of 10 ("Next 10") and the most recent individual exams.  The 2nd book of 10 (10 More) can be used if you need more than 25 or so exams.

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I think you'll find these answers are pretty much standard for most top-tier law schools in the US. The idea of using laptops has been dissuaded by some of my profs (60%, you do the math), because they feel the student's active participation has been reduced to that of a transcriber rather than a listener and thinker.

Using this logic, did the profs also argue against taking written notes?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Terrified of the LSAT
« on: September 27, 2008, 12:19:55 PM »
In the city in which I live which is 20 miles east of South Bend, most of our workers are laid off and our companies have shut down which is very, very scary.  South Bend is home to the AM General Plant (where they make hummers) so that's sort of a big deal, other than that, not much to boast about.


If I had to make a prediction, I'd say that plant is next.  Hummers = the way of the dinosaurs.

Yep, I'm afraid you are right on that.  They make humvees too for the military, but if our entire government is broke, then that will be cut back as well.  Anyway, do not want to get into an economic debate, but def this part of the country and my part of the state is certainly feeling the "pinch."  (sucker punch).

Fwiw, the government's not broke, and the military will need humvees as long as people want to kill us.

They may also start making hybrid/electric humvees, but I would agree the civilian market will probably shrink for the forseeable future.

I'll just strengthen your point a bit.  The military will need humvees as long as people want to kill us, and/or as long as we want to kill people.

I'll just complete your point a bit.  The military will need humvees as long as people want to kill us, and/or as long as we want to kill the people who want to kill us.

Obviously, there are many in the U.S. today who don't feel the need to do so, so it's good that you raise this distinction.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Terrified of the LSAT
« on: September 27, 2008, 12:13:25 PM »


Also, someone asked earlier about the chances of me getting in at my firm.  Well, I think I have a good repor with them, but I have seen their requirements that they send to law schools when scouting.  Have to be cum laude, have to be on law review or journal, and have to be top 25% of class.  They only recruit from Top 100 schools. Maybe I would be an exception though given my prior history with the firm?
 

You might be, you need to ask.  You should also obviously work there during your law school summers if possible, if you want to work there after law school.

If you really prefer a public interest job, though, then this becomes irrelevant.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Terrified of the LSAT
« on: September 27, 2008, 12:09:21 PM »
In the city in which I live which is 20 miles east of South Bend, most of our workers are laid off and our companies have shut down which is very, very scary.  South Bend is home to the AM General Plant (where they make hummers) so that's sort of a big deal, other than that, not much to boast about.


If I had to make a prediction, I'd say that plant is next.  Hummers = the way of the dinosaurs.

Yep, I'm afraid you are right on that.  They make humvees too for the military, but if our entire government is broke, then that will be cut back as well.  Anyway, do not want to get into an economic debate, but def this part of the country and my part of the state is certainly feeling the "pinch."  (sucker punch).

Fwiw, the government's not broke, and the military will need humvees as long as people want to kill us.

They may also start making hybrid/electric humvees, but I would agree the civilian market will probably shrink for the forseeable future.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Terrified of the LSAT
« on: September 27, 2008, 12:05:03 PM »
Thank you for saying that its good I am thinking ahead.  I get really tired of people telling me to focus on my undergrad and that I may change my mind, etc.  I hate to admit this, but the entire reason for going ahead with my bachelors is specifically so that I can get into law school.  Sure, there is a pretty large possibility that I may not get in, etc. and then atleast I will have a bachelors to compliment my paralegal certificate, but I am pretty goal oriented and hell bent on law school.

I guess I just want to know, is it possible to go to a state law school with an lsat score around 150?  That is pretty average, right?


150 is very average.  (The statistical median is right around 151/152.) 

That said, most law schools require higher scores, including most public schools.  You should generally shoot for at least a 155 to be reasonably competitive.

On the other hand, there are some schools where you can get in with an LSAT below 150.  They're obviously not the best, but they're still out there.

One thing to think about -- if you have a strong relationship with your current firm (and it seems that you do), then you may be able to get a job there even if you just attend a modest local law school.  It depends on the firm, but if it's not a real snooty place, and they know you and like you, and know you're a good worker, they might be able to take you on once you get your JD, regardless of where it's from.  Studying PT and continuing to work may be good for this, as it will maintain the relationship and make the segue from paralegal to attorney fairly seamless.

In other words, you're relatively well-positioned.  You have grades and contacts, which are a huge part of the picture.  Just work steadily on the LSAT -- it's very learnable -- starting out completely untimed, and just focusing on the concepts.  Start with a basic Kaplan book, and then carefully work through the powerscore books, or take a quality course.  Give yourself a good amount of lead time, ease into the process, and you'll feel much more comfortable with the test fairly soon.


Awesome, thanks for the advice.  I hope you are all right about the LSAT being "learnable."  I do have several years to work on it which is helpful.

I do not think I could maintain my position at my firm while I am attending school b/c the nearest local school that would accept part time students is 2 hours away.  I am about 30 mins away from Notre Dame, but I do not believe they have part time programs.  (Plus I highly doubt I could get into ND, though it has been a life-long dream). My hope is to be accepted to either IU Bloomington or IU Indy.  Bloomington would be my first choice (ND is just a fantasy) but I read somewhere on the IU Bloomington website that this year their accepted students had higher gpa and lsat scores than the norm.  So the bar has been raised! 

It's definiteliy learnable.  I helped someone go from 120's to 160's recently. Just work steadily on it over time.

If you can't study part time, then ask your favorite lawyer about the possiblity of working as an attorney with the firm down the road, and what kind of school/GPA they'd require.  Start laying the groundwork for a future position, just in case it's needed.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Burnout Advice
« on: September 27, 2008, 11:57:58 AM »
Well I for one am not in this position at all. I've been smoking pot just about every day and have written exactly one full length prep test since the beginning of the summer. @#!* it. I burned myself out the first time I wrote, I'm doing something totally different for the rewrite.

Do you wear a canadian tuxedo?

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