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Job Search / Re: OCI question
« on: September 14, 2006, 09:48:49 AM »
I have no problem writing an unsolicted cover letter. My question was more along the lines of whether this is even effective. With no connections inside the firm, won't my letter and resume just become lost in the shuffle (regardless of my ranking)?

I'm curious: Does anyone know how many law students get offers through OCI each year compared with unsolicited attempts outside of the OCI process?

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Like the last poster alluded to, do some research on your target firms and find some similarities you might have with partners, etc. I suggest Martindale's through Lexis. You can search people at a firm by undergrad or law school they attended. Put some good stuff in that cover letter that will make them take a look at the resume. A lot of firms will only take those unsolicited if they don't fill up in OCI, but you won't know until you start calling up firms and sending those resumes out.

Job Search / Re: OCI question
« on: September 14, 2006, 08:05:34 AM »
Where do you go to school? Do you not have a career development office? You should have been taught by now how to write a cover letter for an unsolicited job inquiry. 

Job Search / Re: OCI question
« on: September 13, 2006, 02:07:42 PM »
Screwing up the interview is always a possibility. On the other hand, the MBA and extensive work experience, as well as the fact that he may have a niche interest in which they're needing additional folks, will often make up the difference of a few percentage points. I've seen much stranger things happen.

Current Law Students / Re: Law Schools To Avoid At All Costs!
« on: September 12, 2006, 08:38:27 PM »
Well, law school is what you make it.  You can go to a T1 school and score poorly, not network, nor create opportunities for yourself or you can go to a T4 that is known to produce excellent attorneys, bust your butt, and get the jobs.  It is your choice of what you do after law school.  If you plan for what you want to do, then you can do it regardless of the school.  Both T1 schools and T4 schools have their faults.  It can be argued the same for big firm/small firm or public/private sector.  I was in the legal field for years before going to law school.  I was fortunate to work downtown DC.  I gained experience at a small firm and a large national firm.  In both firms, the attorneys went to schools in all tiers.  I hate to see people talk about things that they dont know anything about.  Be realistic and understand that people make choices based upon their needs; not anyone elses. 

I'd also be interested in hearing what the "faults" of T1 schools, relative to T4s, are.

Likely faults of T1 schools relative to T4s?

I've found that it really sucks having to choose between jobs.

Current Law Students / Re: Lying on Your Resume
« on: September 12, 2006, 10:44:04 AM »
The more outrageous the better. Put something really impressive on there. Like the previous guy said, "you'll be fine." It's always a good idea to lie on your resume, especially if you're planning on being a future fiduciary.

Current Law Students / Re: CREAC Method for legal writing
« on: September 11, 2006, 01:34:14 PM »
It's more commonly known as TREAT. Thesis-Rule-Explanation of the rule, e.g. history, precedent-Application of that precedent or history to your current set of facts, etc.-Thesis restated. It's a popular alternative to IRAC. I hope this helps.

Current Law Students / Re: What's good about being an attorney?
« on: September 11, 2006, 09:29:59 AM »
It's a mixed bag. On the one hand, a majority of elected officials hold a JD. On the other hand, entering law school you have a statistically greater chance of being a criminal defendant than a criminal defense attorney (Dershowitz, "Letters to a Young Lawyer").

Current Law Students / Re: Outlining
« on: September 10, 2006, 08:58:55 AM »
I've heard outlining throughout the year, every couple weeks or so, then making an outline of your outline as you get a couple weeks out is a good strategy. Whatever you choose, if it's an open notes test, TAB YOUR OUTLINE. It will save some precious time.

Current Law Students / Re: Relationships in Law school?
« on: September 10, 2006, 08:46:39 AM »
It's definitely possible to have a relationship during law school. One caveat: NO SEX WITH CLASSMATES, it's just like sex with a coworker. ALWAYS a bad idea. Always. Trust me on this one.

Current Law Students / Re: Am I nuts to forgo a second year internship?
« on: September 10, 2006, 08:42:05 AM »
Yes, you would be absolutely crazy not to work a legal internship your 2L summer. You can try to jump in the job hunt after 3L, but you'll soon realize you've made a serious mistake. I understand your concern about the study abroad experience, it sucks not having it, but it also sucks getting stuck in a job you hate, due to the fact that its your only option.

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