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Current Law Students / Re: Law School Academic Probation
« on: April 02, 2007, 10:23:37 AM »
Call the school. I attended law school for one year in 1999, and had to drop out due to family issues. I had great grades, and I WISH they would have transferred over! But alas, they did not, and I had to retake my first year (and did so at a different school). I'm pretty sure you'll get a fresh slate when you reattend, but the challenge is going to be getting into school. Even with my good grades from the previous go-round, schools were suspicious of my ability to finish (which is why I didn't get more scholarship money from certain schools). Good luck - I hope it works out.

Current Law Students / Re: I don't like appellate briefs
« on: April 02, 2007, 10:16:17 AM »
Yeah it's true, I'm not a big fan of them.

Just thought you should know

I concur. My rewrite is due in a week, and I hate it. Studying for finals is pure joy compared to this.

I agree with everyone don't seem to even want the position, save for the resume bullet. Now if you think you will benefit yourself by using the position as a learning experience or will be applying to some clerkship/academic position in the future, then go for it.

Remember, there might be others on the Journal that aren't as set jobwise and others who would actually WANT the position.

Hm. How would I know if I WANT the position without hearing about all of the benefits? If I don't know if I want it yet, I'm not exactly sure how anyone else could come to the conclusion that I don't. And I thought I made it clear that it would absolutely NOT be for the resume bullet. I've got 15 years of work experience - I don't "need" another bullet. BUT if I could help shape the reputation of the school, do something of value for my fellow-students, continue to hone my leadership skills, it may be entirely worth it. If editor in chief is not a good opportunity to do those types of things (and it's been debated among my fellow staff members as to whether the position can actually accomplish these things), then is there a point, BESIDES having another bullet on my resume, to hold the position? I was just looking for a laundry list of benefits.

The issue is this - I'm tired. It's been a rough year for me. I've been through a lot personally, and I have to decide if really want a rest next year before I go head first into my career, or if I want to keep my foot on the gas pedal. I am sorry if I have not been clear, but I would be doing this for reasons entirely unrelated to building my resume. But if having the position cannot do something for me other than that, I really have to think twice about it.

Agreed.  It is awful, and a terrible waste of a coveted position, when an editor of the law review is there just to punch a ticket and not to actually do the work.

Not sure why you assume I would not be willing to do the work. It is legitimate to explore what such a "coveted position" provides in terms of experience and future opportunities, considering the amount of time and committment that the position entails. I refuse to take something on merely because it looks good on my resume or it is "coveted" by others - it has to be rewarding in and of itself. The arguments I have heard AGAINST being managing editor or editor in chief (from partners at firms) have been the following: if you have good grades and a 2L summer associate position already, there is really no point in stressing yourself out that much unless your ego needs that much stroking. I don't need my ego stroked. And I've already commented on the other two. So I am merely looking for other reasons that it might be a good experience.

Otherwise, to the posters who have given me some things to think about, thanks.

Law Review Board elections are coming up. I'm batting around the idea of running. But I'm debating whether or not it will be worth my time. I have a job already. I'm probably going to be published. Good grades. So do I really need it? Can anyone give me a good reason for taking on a managing editor position? Thanks.

Current Law Students / Re: Do Grade Mistakes Happen?
« on: January 21, 2007, 08:56:56 AM »
Does anyone have knowledge of a situation where the professor actually made a mistake in how they calculated or reported a student's grade?  If so, what happened afterwards?

I'm the last person to suspect such a thing but I honestly think this might have happened to me for one exam grade.  At this point, I am afraid to suggest or pursue it, since it naturally sounds like sour grapes and could do more harm than good in the long run.

YES - grade mistakes happen. In my first year I had two incorrect grades. For the first one, the registrar incorrectly input the grades for an entire class (and mine went down, unfortunately, but not by a lot.) The second one, was just an error of transcribing on the Professor's part, and my grade went up. Ever since the first semester, I've checked every one of my tests just to make sure I got the right grade.

Current Law Students / Re: Should I drop out?
« on: January 19, 2007, 04:10:36 PM »
You will be able to get a good job. I have a friend who is a 3L, has been on academic probation at a 3T school since the end of his first year (just barely hangs on to a 2.0 each semester) and already has a decent job lined up for after graduation starting at $75K per year, simply because he networked like a mad man. The way I see it, if HE is employable, then both you (doing ok at a tier one) and I (doing better than ok at a tier 2) certainly are.

Current Law Students / Re: Thinking about leaving Law School.
« on: January 19, 2007, 03:53:29 PM »
I can somewhat relate. I'm 33 and will be 35 when I graduate next year. My husband and I have made a LOT of sacrafices for this, but I never question whether it is worth it. But it still is frustrating that we spend so much time apart. I am fortunate to go full time, but something my Dean said to a seminar for non-traditional students really helps me put this into perspective: "There is LIFE AFTER B's." In other words, when you're a NT student, often you're doing law school as career enhancement, and your goals don't necessarily require you to be top 1% of your class. PLUS you have past work experience to offer future employers. It's OK to give a some weight to your relationship, and it's RIGHT to do so. I know that there are times that I COULD have worked harder to get better grades, but frankly, I'd rather keep my marriage together. But that doesn't mean you or I have to give up law school altogether, either. It's about balance and what you think is important.

Current Law Students / Re: talking about grades?
« on: January 08, 2007, 09:56:33 AM »
My study partner and I shared our grades because our classes were year-long, and it was a good way to gage which one of us was understanding each class better, so we could help the other out. It worked out well because we each did really well in 2 of four classes, and they happened to be different classes. And we did improve the next semester by "teaching" each other. Otherwise, I did not share with anyone else because your friend is right - no good can come from it.

Current Law Students / Re: I don't know if I want to be a lawyer anymore!
« on: December 06, 2006, 03:36:24 PM »
You sound like I did after my first year of law school in 1999. At the end of that year, I dealt with some personal family stuff as well as grappling with the question of whether I wanted to even be a lawyer. Looking back on that time, I realize that my doubts about a legal career were largely exacerbated by my personal situation. However, I dropped out, and went back to work for five years. I beat myself for that five years for having dropped out, having not talked to anyone at the school to see if I could get help, and having acted rashly without looking at the root of concerm.

So, after five years of knowing that dropping out of law school had been the wrong choice, I reapplied to several law schools. And not only did I get into law school, but I was offered substantial scholarships at most of the schools I applied to (probably due to my work experience). I also used my personal statement to explain why I dropped out the first time and what I learned from the whole experience.

The only bad thing was that I was forced to repeat my first year. So if you do take some time off, don't take too much time in deciding whether or not you want to come back. But you're spending so much money on school, that I don't think taking some time off to decide if this is really right for you is a bad thing. And the fact that you have attended before will not necessarily keep you from getting accepted later (provided you give the schools a good reason for having left in the first time.)

When you returned, how old were you? Did you go full time or part time?  What did you do when you quit?

Sorry for the late reply - it's finals time ;-)

I was 32 when I returned to law school last year, 27 when I quit. I was and am full time. When I quit school, I was offered a position at my old company in radio advertising sales, and I did that for four years, and then did a year in the mortgage industry.

To the original poster -
I'm SO glad that you spoke with your school and found out the facts. Two years is a lot of time, and you never know what you'll learn about yourself during that time. Like me, you could find out that law is your calling and it's where you belong. And for what it's worth, I'm glad for my mistakes - my law school experience would not have been as pleasant for me had I finished the first time as it is right now.

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