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Job Search / Re: I'm # 4 in my class, and can't get an interview
« on: February 05, 2007, 07:57:30 PM »
How many firms did you apply to? I find that a lot of people complain that they can't get a job, but they haven't put in the time. If you've applied to over 150 firms, then get worried. If you haven't applied to that many, then get on applying.

Good luck; I know firms are still interviewing.

Job Search / Re: 3.8 @ Michigan 1st semester
« on: January 27, 2007, 04:21:03 PM »
Do you really need the validation of hearing about this?

Michingan is on, what, a 3.3 curve? You're probably in the top-15% of your class. Bask in your glory (congrats), and be happy.

You have a good chance of getting a job if your personality is conducive to promoting the firm to your classmates the next school year. Your grades are good enough that you should get a lot of interviews. After that, it's up to you.

And that's the fun of the 1L lottery.

Current Law Students / Re: talking about grades?
« on: January 27, 2007, 04:15:40 PM »
How I feel about grades:

In law school, you know you're graded on a curve. Say your school has a 3.0 curve and you have a 3.1, you know that a little more than half the class did worse than you, and a little less than half did better. Does it really matter to you to know which of your friends are on which side of that? Most schools even publish approximately (or exactly) how many people can get each grade, so your status can be crystal clear without ever asking anyone what their grades are.

I used to talk about grades in highschool, and looking back, I was a huge tool. I did well and wondered which of my friends did too. I didn't think I was bragging at the time -- but why else would I have wanted to discuss grades? I think as long as you know where your are in the pack (roughly), there's no need to discuss grades (unless you want to brag).

The only reason would be if your school doesn't rank or release percentiles and you wanted a ball-park estimate for yourself, but even then you'd have to ask most of the people in your section what their grades were in order to estimate accurately.

Anytime my friends ask, I tell them, "I'm just happy to be here; I don't discuss grades," and most get the picture. However, one friend pushed me to share so many times that I finally told him. I still feel the same way about my grades, but now I think he's a grade-A tool for his actions. I wish he would have just left the subject alone.

Current Law Students / Re: Working during the 1-L year
« on: January 18, 2007, 02:02:11 PM »
I have a job. It's vaguely law-related, pays good money, and costs me 10 hours a week. It's not so bad really.

Job Search / Re: Odds at Firm job
« on: January 17, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »
With a straight 4.0 I would expect that you could somewhat easily nail a job through Spring OCI (if your campus has it) as long as you don't have 3 heads.

Current Law Students / Re: Legal Writing Grade
« on: January 16, 2007, 08:31:52 AM »
Our class had totally blind grading. We get an exam number and that, not our name, goes on all our exams. We did not, however, get any review of early drafts of our papers. What we could do instead (it was optional) was write a practice exam on a different topic our teacher gave us and have her review it with us a week before the final.

The system worked out pretty well for me.

Current Law Students / Re: Frustration in Finding Summer Job
« on: January 14, 2007, 06:43:45 PM »
If you had an especially good fall semester, maybe firms will feel differently about you. They're still reviewing 1Ls; it can't hurt to send out a few more resumes.

Current Law Students / Re: First Semester
« on: January 14, 2007, 07:40:47 AM »
That Batman symbol is enough to grade on to law review. Congrats! However, the laughing happy face could hurt your chances for NYC BigLaw. Gotham thanks you.

Current Law Students / Re: Legal Writing Grade
« on: December 28, 2006, 07:36:54 PM »
But the other thing I hear is that learning legal research and writing is really important but that the class doesn't do the trick. What really educates law students is actually doing legal research your first summer.

Therefore legal research is our most useful 1L skill, but the class is far from the most useful. IMO

Current Law Students / Re: Legal Writing Grade
« on: December 28, 2006, 05:00:24 PM »
I haven't really heard anything about legal research being an important class to employers, but I cannot imagine that it could be that important. First off, every young lawyer I know knows how pointless the class is, and most older lawyers didn't even have the class. I sure hope it's not the most important class, because I don't know about you folks, but I totally blew off my 1 credit LRW class this semester.


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