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Current Law Students / Re: GSU v. Emory
« on: March 19, 2008, 09:44:04 AM »

How difficult is it to make law review at GSU?  Top 15%?  Any suggestions?  I am sarting there in the fall and any advice is greatly appreciated. 

So, you're not taking anyone's advice here? 

Considering that tuition will be my only debt...I would prefer to focus on my studies and not on how I will pay off an enourmous amount of debt.  I do appreciate all of the advice given and contract, I do appreciate the time you took to address my concerns.  I would greatly appreciate any tips anyone has regarding my earlier inquiry.  How difficult is it to make law review at GSU?  Top 15%  Any suggestions?

One would think that because you have an enormous amount of debt you would focus on your studies even more b/c you have a lot more at stake. I know that it has been that way for me.

Current Law Students / Re: GSU v. Emory
« on: March 18, 2008, 09:36:22 AM »
Based on my experience [as a 2L at Emory who will be working BigLaw this summer in ATL and knowing people at GSU law], the top 1/3 to top 1/2 have a good shot at getting an ATL BigLaw spot coming from Emory. Whereas the top 10% - 20% have a good shot at BigLaw coming out of GSU. I like the odds better coming out of Emory even though youll have debt. If you can be sure that youll be in the top of the class,go to GSU [all the current students reading this should be chuckling to themselves b/c as we all know, predicting where youll fall in the class rankings is nearly impossible.] If you have a unique background or something that sets you apart from your classmates [by this I dont mean that you are different than your classmates b/c you spent a summer building mud huts for displaced hamsters, I mean something that equals larger dollar signs for the firm [i.e. and extensive finance background or an engineering degree so you can do patent work]], then those class rank limits may be expanded. Looking at the composition of my summer class of approx 25 SAs, 5 are from Emory and 0 are from GSU. This doesnt necessarily mean that they didnt give any GSU students offers, it just may give you an indication of how many offers were given out to each school. Hope this helps and pm me if you have any specific questions.

Current Law Students / Re: Fed Judicial internships,
« on: February 29, 2008, 07:08:40 AM »
I did a fed judicial internship my 1L summer. My judge really only cared about my legal writing and research grade and thankfully that was my highest grade first semester. A lot of times judges care about your personality because it is their chambers and they call all the shots, so they want to make sure they like you. Also, my judge made me interview with the clerk that was going to be my "boss." Best of luck because it is an amazing experience and employers def look highly upon it.

Current Law Students / Re: Worst time to be a lawyer?
« on: February 24, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »
I think right now is not the best time to be a law student looking for a job, but certainly not the worst time to be a lawyer. The economy stinks, that we all can agree. However, when the economy goes down, bankruptcies and corporate reorganizations go up and lots of lawyers are needed for both. Granted some lawyers will lose their jobs and law firms will cut back on the amount of hiring, but as mentioned by a previous poster, the economy ebbs and flows and lawyers are needed in either direction it goes. What this means is that for the next few years big law firms are not going to go as deep as they have for the past 6-8 years in law school classes [except for HYS] to recruit. So more students will have to take med, small, govt jobs and then move on to big firm [if they decide to do so] when the economy strengthens. There have always been more law students than quality legal jobs in the US, this is no surprise.

As to the starting salaries, I can only speak about large firms because those salaries can be easily accessed. I would have to say that starting salaries in NYC have not kept up with the other markets in the country and are not commensurate with the amount of work required and the cost of living. However outside NYC, starting salaries for first year associates at a large law firm are more than enough, esp for those who have $100k+ debt like myself. 

Current Law Students / Re: false imprisonment?
« on: December 19, 2006, 04:17:21 PM »
I agree with dandlewood. I thought the person had to make reasonable attempts to escape for it to be false imprisonment. If he hasnt made an attempt to escape he is basically consenting to being held in the room. From the fact pattern, John was silent when mike told him he was going to lock the door, so how do we know that John wants to leave the room? If John is not attempting to leave, then mike is not intentionally confining John against his will by locking the door.   

Current Law Students / Re: torts hypo input?
« on: December 16, 2006, 05:19:01 AM »
yes he intentionally shot the balloon, but the question is if he knew with substantial certainty that shooting at the balloon was going to cause injury. Check out Garrat v. Dailey (279 P.2d 1091) - in that case a five year old child moved a chair before a woman tried to sit in it and the supreme court of washington held that to charge the child with battery, the child had to have knowledge with substantial certainty that the woman would try to sit in the chair and would be harmed if he moved it.

Current Law Students / Re: torts hypo input?
« on: December 15, 2006, 07:47:30 PM »
hey pacific, is there an age for the kid, because i think that could make a world of difference (between a 5 year old shooting and an 11 year old). The brightline test that law123 puts forth is a viable answer, but other jurisdictions will determine if his actions were that of a reasonable child of like age. I am a bit suspect on the battery issue because since we dont know the age we cannot determine if he "knowledge with substantial certainty" that injury would follow. Sure the kid could have intended to hit the balloon, but did he know the repercussions? If this came from your exam and the age was intentionally left out, it is my guess that your professor wanted you to analyze both a young kid and a not so young kid or that's how i would have done it (assuming i would have had enough time, which is like crack during exams, you can never get enough of it).

Current Law Students / Re: Anyone else feel like exams were too easy?
« on: December 12, 2006, 05:02:17 PM »
Just finished with my last one yesterday and I got the feeling that all the exams except for Torts were pretty easy.  There didn't seem to be any tricky issues and after talking with a lot of classmates it doesn't sound like I missed anything.  While this would be great if it weren't for the curve, how will the profs grade the exams.  We all seemed to have caught all the issues.  I guess it may be based on how organized and well written our essays were.  If that's the case, I don't feel all that confident.  Has anyone else gotten the same feeling from exams?

I simply refuse to talk about the exam once it is over. I think it is like this at most schools, but people tend to freak out pre, during and post exam and I really don t need their insecurities pushed upon me. My contracts prof told us a story about how after his crim law exam he and his classmates got together and talked about the exam and he mentioned something that he wrote about that nobody else had, so everyone thought he found the golden key to the exam and they all were going to get C's except for him. Well come to find out what he noticed really didnt matter at all and everyone else stressed out for nothing. I have 3 more exams and I am in the zone ... the last thing i need to do is worry about something i cant change. 

Current Law Students / Re: Open Memo
« on: November 30, 2006, 03:40:53 PM »
Runner-up - interesting thoughts. Our grading includes a lot of LRAW assignments. However, the points are somewhat more concentrated than yours. A long list of assignments counts for about 5% of the grade (library exercises, Lexis ICW ercercises, etc.). Our first memo was 25% of the grade, second memo 50% of the grade, citation exam is 10% and class participation is 10%.

The anxiety for the first memo was moderate before submission and (to my mind) somewhat excessive when the grades came back - even for those of us who did well. The "first grade in law school" syndrome is well known to upper level students. Submitting the second memo was truly stressful - nobody felt good about it even after it was submitted. A C on a memo that's 50% of the grade can put a real cramp in your holidays.

Anyway, it's a bit easier for me b/c I'm not fresh out of college - way out of college actually. A few new graduates in front of me are having real trouble with the workload and stress. I worry about them...I really do.

Wow, i am jealous ... our ENTIRE grade is the final draft of the open memo that was due last week.  :-\

Current Law Students / Re: The Paper Chase.
« on: October 14, 2006, 09:01:41 PM »
none of my classes are like that and if they were i would be at the registrars asking for a refund plus interest. curves and rankings make law school stressful enough, professors like that do not exist and if they do they need to be contained and exterminated.

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