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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Baby Bar
« on: May 26, 2012, 01:18:21 PM »
what is the meaning of baby bar i dont know i think that it might be a bar for babies only and i want to say thatbaby bar means a bar for babies where only babies are allowd and the came there only for babies in a male baby have a female baby for thier recreation
thanks for listning my comment

 ???

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Law schools couldn't care less about your specific major. They primarily base their admission decisions on your GPA and LSAT score. A biology degree wouldn't be a hindrance, and in many instances it may be an asset. Although you may need an advanced degree for the most part, your biology background might help you break into the field of intellectual property law (patents and so forth).


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Not to bust your bubble, but you should still compare the cost of each school. You might not perform well enough to keep your scholarship beyond the first year. 

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 14, 2012, 03:45:42 PM »
Thanks everyone for your advice. You have given me a lot to think about. I agree that I shouldn't go to Cooley if I expect to transfer. The odds are stacked against me and I should be ok with spending the next 3 years there if I have to. I know people who do go their now and do like it. I also have heard some good things regardless of its reputation. I think I can be ok with getting my law degree there, and Ill probably go part time.

I guess I am leaning toward the unlikely idea of being able to transfer because I don't want to wait and take the lsat again: mostly because I don't want to have to start paying back my student loans from undergrad since I won't be enrolled in school (btw...I did get my BA, Nova Juris :P).

I need to be realistic about this decision and I will continue to do my research, including contacting specific schools about their transfer process. Basically its not impossible to transfer but just really really hard. This was very helpful and Im going to consider alot of things before I make a decision. THANKS

For future reference: Nova Juris, there is way to be helpful in a respectful way. You are really condescending. Just something to think about.

wow, the person who barely passed undergrad and can't master the lsat with cooley as their best option giving me life advise. Thanks. That's swell.

Well I thought I would help you out by pointing out that you meant "advice" here (advise is a verb, idiot).  Seeing as you clearly consider yourself the next Einstein (and thus, understand the difference between verbs and nouns), you already knew that.  Good luck taking my order sir (with fries please).

nope. never did, just someone speed typing and not giving an A' because guess what lsat didn't care, bar doesn't care, and for law papers due or reports where they do count.........I care enough to check. I also don't kiss hookers on the mouth, doesn't mean I don't know how, they just aren't worth it, and neither are you.

I don't have to be Einstein (who by the who was a physist not an English Major and got friggin D's in school and didn't even comb his hair half the time.......)  but anyone who can't get decent grades and lsat shouldn't go to lawschool. Never said I was smart, just trying to keep the scissors out of the hands of the helmet cases doing laps around the pool.

Caveat: Me no need be smart to say you need meet standard to do.

Prove it. I implore you to write a couple cogent and comprehensible paragraphs regarding a matter of law. If you think you're up to it, briefly discuss the theory of efficient breach, its policy rationale, and how efficient breach differs from opportunistic breach.

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 13, 2012, 09:59:54 PM »
what I am "telling" is that you think it is and used it as such due to your thoughts on it.

screw it, go back to sesame street. I hear cooley is opening a campus there soon too. Right after the one at Gitmo.

 :o

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 13, 2012, 08:51:17 PM »
FutureLSStudent, if you're goal is to finish your law degree at a school other than Cooley then you'd probably be better off foregoing school in the fall and retake the LSAT in an attempt to score into the school of your choice.

As Roald pointed out, finishing in the top 10% is unlikely. In fact, you have a 90% chance of not finishing in the top 10%. The odds are stacked precariously against you. And in many ways, how well you do your first year is largely out of your control. The forced curve is brutal. Professors try to grade objectively (one can hope), but complete objectivity is impossible given the subjective nature of legal analysis. It's not as though every question has a clear right or wrong answer; there are many shades of gray in the law. A professor, for example, might mark you down because you chose to flesh out an argument that he thought was of little importance, even though reasonable minds could disagree as to its legal relevance.   

If you move forward with your current plan, you're placing your fate mostly in the hands of your professors and fellow students. Law school is fiercely competitive. It's unlike college in almost every imaginable way. You could conceivably spend 18 hours a day in the library and still end up with a pedestrian gpa that's well outside of the top 10%.

In my humble opinion, you'd be better off devoting the time and energy that you ostensibly plan to exert in your studies this fall to retaking (and mastering) the LSAT.

so now you agree with me. Awsome. Buzz must have faded?

Are you enjoying the anonymity of cyberspace, young Nova? Good. The world desperately needs more pricks. Keep up the great work!

kettle meet stove

I think what you mean to say is "kettle meet pot." The point of my question was that I doubt you're as equally bellicose in your face-to-face interactions as you are here. I've giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it's entirely possible that you're a prick all day, every day.

In case you are a prick of the perpetual sort, let me give you some advice. I know you've probably watched your fair share of television and likely equate arrogance with intelligence. But in the real world, you have to be incredibly brilliant for co-workers to put up with someone that comes across as condescending as you do on this forum. And judging from your apparent deficiency in grammar and spelling skills, I highly doubt your intelligence rises to any workable definition of brilliance. I've read two posts wherein you wrote "academicly" instead of "academically." A single instance could be written off as a simple mistake. But two separate instances is a clear indication that you really don't know how to spell the word. So if you think you're going to get any play out of this "holier than thou" attitude you exhibit on this forum in the "real" world, you're sorely mistaken. You might even get your teeth punched down your throat.

With that said, given your constant usage of a LSAT score of 160 as your baseline for judging someone's intellectual abilities, I surmise that you scored 160 or above on your LSAT. If you did that's wonderful. But it certainly doesn't give you license to sling insults at others. Play nice, dude.

A. Proves you know nothing about what you consider the real world. Your closest thing it to is the tv show and whatever you were told by others. Everyone with a broken leg tries to shout swimming advice from the side of the pool.

B.  Someone act different online? Wha?????

C.  Nice use of bellicose first sentence to try to do a subtle "See I'm not a moron like you said" bit. Very subtle, very clever. You can close wordsearch now.

The fact that you think 'bellicose' is some particularly elusive and extraordinary word is quite telling.

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 12, 2012, 11:11:34 PM »
FutureLSStudent, if you're goal is to finish your law degree at a school other than Cooley then you'd probably be better off foregoing school in the fall and retake the LSAT in an attempt to score into the school of your choice.

As Roald pointed out, finishing in the top 10% is unlikely. In fact, you have a 90% chance of not finishing in the top 10%. The odds are stacked precariously against you. And in many ways, how well you do your first year is largely out of your control. The forced curve is brutal. Professors try to grade objectively (one can hope), but complete objectivity is impossible given the subjective nature of legal analysis. It's not as though every question has a clear right or wrong answer; there are many shades of gray in the law. A professor, for example, might mark you down because you chose to flesh out an argument that he thought was of little importance, even though reasonable minds could disagree as to its legal relevance.   

If you move forward with your current plan, you're placing your fate mostly in the hands of your professors and fellow students. Law school is fiercely competitive. It's unlike college in almost every imaginable way. You could conceivably spend 18 hours a day in the library and still end up with a pedestrian gpa that's well outside of the top 10%.

In my humble opinion, you'd be better off devoting the time and energy that you ostensibly plan to exert in your studies this fall to retaking (and mastering) the LSAT.

so now you agree with me. Awsome. Buzz must have faded?

Are you enjoying the anonymity of cyberspace, young Nova? Good. The world desperately needs more pricks. Keep up the great work!

kettle meet stove

I think what you mean to say is "kettle meet pot." The point of my question was that I doubt you're as equally bellicose in your face-to-face interactions as you are here. I've giving you the benefit of the doubt, but it's entirely possible that you're a prick all day, every day.

In case you are a prick of the perpetual sort, let me give you some advice. I know you've probably watched your fair share of television and likely equate arrogance with intelligence. But in the real world, you have to be incredibly brilliant for co-workers to put up with someone that comes across as condescending as you do on this forum. And judging from your apparent deficiency in grammar and spelling skills, I highly doubt your intelligence rises to any workable definition of brilliance. I've read two posts wherein you wrote "academicly" instead of "academically." A single instance could be written off as a simple mistake. But two separate instances is a clear indication that you really don't know how to spell the word. So if you think you're going to get any play out of this "holier than thou" attitude you exhibit on this forum in the "real" world, you're sorely mistaken. You might even get your teeth punched down your throat.

With that said, given your constant usage of a LSAT score of 160 as your baseline for judging someone's intellectual abilities, I surmise that you scored 160 or above on your LSAT. If you did that's wonderful. But it certainly doesn't give you license to sling insults at others. Play nice, dude.

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:05:48 PM »
FutureLSStudent, if you're goal is to finish your law degree at a school other than Cooley then you'd probably be better off foregoing school in the fall and retake the LSAT in an attempt to score into the school of your choice.

As Roald pointed out, finishing in the top 10% is unlikely. In fact, you have a 90% chance of not finishing in the top 10%. The odds are stacked precariously against you. And in many ways, how well you do your first year is largely out of your control. The forced curve is brutal. Professors try to grade objectively (one can hope), but complete objectivity is impossible given the subjective nature of legal analysis. It's not as though every question has a clear right or wrong answer; there are many shades of gray in the law. A professor, for example, might mark you down because you chose to flesh out an argument that he thought was of little importance, even though reasonable minds could disagree as to its legal relevance.   

If you move forward with your current plan, you're placing your fate mostly in the hands of your professors and fellow students. Law school is fiercely competitive. It's unlike college in almost every imaginable way. You could conceivably spend 18 hours a day in the library and still end up with a pedestrian gpa that's well outside of the top 10%.

In my humble opinion, you'd be better off devoting the time and energy that you ostensibly plan to exert in your studies this fall to retaking (and mastering) the LSAT.

so now you agree with me. Awsome. Buzz must have faded?

Are you enjoying the anonymity of cyberspace, young Nova? Good. The world desperately needs more pricks. Keep up the great work!

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Transferring / Re: Process of Transferring From COOLEY
« on: May 09, 2012, 09:47:54 PM »
I agree, it's a statement with no basis in reality. Many law schools have a median/average LSAT score below 160, and yet maintain low academic attrition.

but that wasn't the question was it? It was about transfering out. Seperate issues.

You made it an issue when you stated that if the OP scored below 160 he wouldn't be able to handle a 15 credit-hour course load.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cooley vs Capital
« on: May 09, 2012, 04:14:20 PM »
On the whole, job prospects tend to get worse the deeper you go into the law school rankings.  That tends to demonstrate that it is, in fact, the schools, rather than the individuals.

A contrarian viewpoint would be that the dismal job prospects faced by graduates of lower-tiered schools are more reflective of the realities of supply and demand than an inadequacy of the schools themselves.

Let's face it: law school is law school is law school. There's only one way to read and interpret Hamer v. Sidway. All American law schools share a similar first-year curriculum. Students can then differentiate themselves by course selection, extracurricular activities, and internships in the second and third years. But even this preparation can take one only so far.

The recession forced corporations to rethink how they spent money on legal services. Some 366 corporations, for instance, refused to pay for legal work done by first and second year associates. This phenomenon caused the hiring freezes, which was soon followed by mass layoffs of experienced associates resulting from the downsizing and/or elimination of legal departments within multinational law firms. Many of the laid-off associates, who had valuable legal experience, landed in mid-law and boutique firms ahead of newly-minted attorneys.

Without casting blame on corporations (Biglaw was, in large part, a victim of its own success), their decision to tighten the belt straps has trickled down throughout the entire legal community with disastrous effect.  This has left lower-tiered students without many viable options in a contracted legal marketplace.

If this "new normal" is here to stay, as it appears to be, then we need to rethink and reorganize legal education in America. Many of the lower-tiered schools are no longer needed because the supply of new graduates each year now far exceeds the demand for their services. Law firms that once were happy to hire graduates from second-tier schools are now able to pluck kids from the upper first-tier without issue.

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