« on: September 19, 2007, 02:29:51 PM »
I would pick you as the #1 tool on this discussion board.
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FWIW, I've decided not to transfer to Fordham. They only gave me a couple days to pull the trigger, and Fordham over SJU just doesn't seem like enough of a prestige jump to justofy it. It may reduce my chances of clerking (significantly), but the most important thing is that I avoid the golden handcuffs.
So, I appreciate your thoughts, climbing, and hope that someone else who still really wants to transfer into Fordham gets my spot. (And before anyone asks: yes, I am withdrawing today, so the spot should open up shortly).
So, a few days before classes start, I get a call from Fordham that they accepted me for transfer. Here's the situation: I am currently at St. John's, where I am on the 2nd best journal (i.e., not law review), moot court, and am in the top 10%. I also get a very good scholarship.
At Fordham I would get no money, of course, and would have to do another writing competition, and try to get on moot court there. The plus is, it would be another shot at law review. The downside is who the hell wants to go through another writing competition.
Career-wise, I just did SJU's earlier interview week, and would be left with the second and third interview weeks at Fordham.
Part of the reason I am torn is that I want to be a public defender, so debt it a big factor. At the same time, I would like to clerk, which would definitely be easier out of fordham than St. John's.
Too bad NYU & Columbia scoffed at my transfer apps. That would have been an easy decision. This one is quite a bit tougher.
While you're doing your research on your memo, you might also want to research on your school's honor code. I'm pretty sure that receiving outside help on a major research assignment would be grounds for serious disciplinary actions, assuming your school has any integrity whatsoever.
Dear NoMore3Putts: The reason you can't golf is that God hates you for being such a tool.
Well, St. John's students answer questions on this board rather than reading for Contracts on a Saturday afternoon...
I am a 1L, so I can say that for summer internships, I have been competitive with students from other schools. I was unable to land a federal judicial intenrship, but for other hard-to-get-into positions, I think I will have some offers. I was told by a prof at SJU who advised me on job hunting that the top 5 students at SJU could definitey get federal judicial internships, and top 25 are competitive for the internships.
If you talk to people outside NYC, and even some in NYC, and you say St Johns, many say "where is that?" I can't tell you whether you get the same response with Hofstra, but I'm guessing you do.
I recommend you do not bet on the shcools' rankings changing. Employers aren't looking at the ranks. Their perception is based on how visible the school is, the quality of the students coming out, and the amount of alumni they have at the firm. The USNEWS numbers are so fluid in T2 and T3, and every school is busting its ass to raise its numbers. Everyone's playing the game.
One important factor to consider in making a choice: what is each school's policy for KEEPING your scholarship money?
For all of us contemplating St. Johns, could you please review your experiences with them. Categories of interest include:
The people were the nicest I dealt with (and still are). The downside is that I found out I was admitted by an email inviting me to an admitted students open house. I was not the only one who found out this way. They processed my application fairly quickly.
I've been lucky so far. My profs have ranged from good to great. Not a clunker in the bunch. But, other students in different sections have reported some dreadful experiences. I do think St John's actually values teaching ability. They've all been open and available outside of class and usually good at answering questions.
no problems here. there is a range of people of course, but I haven't encountered any reprehensible behavior. The intelligence level is plenty high, and people are happy to talk about torts and contracts all day, but people also come out for touch football every friday. All in all a pretty enjoyable student atmosphere.
heavy and getting heavier. I think you're going to get this anywhere. I study 4-5 hours a day and am pickin (with two days off), and am picking it up now that finals are looming. No matter where you go, you're first year is going to be very difficult.
Happy with decision?
Yep. So far. I guess I reserve the right to change my mind if I get poor grades, but I like the school a lot. I am really looking forward to getting involved with pro bono opportunities next semester and participating in clinics next year. Also, I went to a big state school, so I appreciate that everything is not impersonal, and that the beauracracy is not so thick.
I don't know if you're from the area, but people sometimes have the idea that the campus is in or right next to the city. It's 12 miles out of manhattan, and it taked about 50 minutes by subway and a comparable amount of time by car to get there. It is not a city school in the way that Brooklyn, Cardozo, Fordham, Columbia, and NYU are, though it within the city limits and does have OCI opportunities with city firms.
I believe it will be "Welcome, here's what you need to know," kind of stuff, including some intro to law-type stuff, and maybe some advice on how to handle the pressure and change. I don't think there are to be any classes.
All my books looked like they were listed. I wouldn;t worry about getting stuck with used books. They don't have any. Even for old editions. I did some hunting online to get some deals, and paid less (I do not require new books). I just hope they don't change their minds again (earlier, one of the texts on the university bookstore site was a hornbook. Today, it had been changed, and the required text was a casebook). I spent $400 total. Woulda been a lot less, but I had to buy one of them new. Stinkin new editions. I still have to order a law dictionary, and I better get the LEEWs CDs pronto as well.
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