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« on: April 04, 2006, 03:12:48 AM »
The reason why Ms. Sullivan failed is actually very simple: she is stupid.
She's not stupid, she just thought they would give her a pass just because she was Stafford's dean ..
Still more prestigious! Ding!
Which boils down to being stupid .. they did jack her up, but her score was so low that they just couldn't give her a pass ..
« on: April 04, 2006, 03:11:43 AM »
Unless, of course, you're already an established mover and shaker hehe...
Oh yeah. In that case, no worries. :wink:
« on: April 04, 2006, 03:10:48 AM »
It's not an in-depth check; just checks to make sure you're not in the felony database, I think. Not sure about misdemeanors.
« on: April 03, 2006, 07:49:48 AM »
Well, I wouldn't say "no one" would choose a T4; you have your own reasons for choosing a school: perhaps you have a family or whatever which would make it much more difficult to have to pick up and move. On the other hand, I think if it is feasible for you to move, you won't regret having chosen the T1.
Fine. Maybe morons would choose a T4.
As far as my personal experience, the main difference between the students at the T14 and UB is that they are so much more motivated: to prepare for class, to answer questions in class, etc. And you do learn a lot from your peers. As far as the professors: I haven't noticed a difference in quality at all. The professors at the T14 might have a fancier pedigree, but I think sometimes that can be an impediment because they might be the chief judge at this court or that court but that doesn't automatically make them well suited for teaching. Hope that helps.
At YHS, there is more of the espirit de corps, rather than faux competition because everyone knows only the top 10% will have a shot at a decent life. I'd probably prepare harder too if the choices were good grades or suicide.
Right, there's no difference between YHS professors and the University of BalT4Timore.
Having a SCOTUS justice or top-flight lawyer as your professor does
make an appreciable diffference, if only in the connections you have and the issues brought up in class.
« on: April 03, 2006, 07:45:00 AM »
The University of San Francisco jumped at least 7 spots, from a brief but painful detour into the 3rd Tier last year back into the 2nd Tier at #93.
Nobody cares about a tier two toilet.
« on: April 03, 2006, 04:20:51 AM »
Can you tell me more about any personal experiences there? What are the professors/students like. If moving was the only other option to go to a T1 (top 50)and paying more, is it worth it?
Flame. No one would seriously choose a T4 just because they'd have to move/pay more.
« on: April 03, 2006, 12:44:09 AM »
i'm a GT 1L who is blowing town for the summer and have just rented my apartment out to a 2L SA in DC
in response to my ad for sublet i received close to 20 responses
i was *blown away* by pedigree of law student who is able to find work in DC over the summer
of the 20 responses that i received, ONE was from outside of the T14 (Tulane). The remaining 19: several stanfords, 4 or 5 yales, 3 or 4 harvards, dukes, uvas, boalts, NYUs, etc.
love him or hate him - loverofwomen is correct to a certain extent. at least in the beginning stages, this profession is one built upon prestige and reputation. i had no idea it was so severe until i put this little ad up....
Thank you. The Tulane grad might also have benefitted from the general post-Katrina diaspora.
« on: April 02, 2006, 11:36:46 PM »
It's really unfortunate you feel tier 3 grads are bringing down the prestige of the profession. There are many tier 3 grads who go on to be very successful and do alot of good. My hard evidence are employment rates and sites like martindale that show many tier 3 law grads with fine jobs. Also, you need stop with this flipping burgers at mcdonald's thing you keep bringing up. It's rediculous you keep using that in your argument. It doesn't happen. You are clearly making that up.
It does happen. When I was working over 1L summer at a biglaw office, an associate there was talking about how embarrassed he felt to run into a guy he knew (in college). The guy went to a T4 and couldn't find a job afterwards.
If you want to settle for less and talk about TTT jobs being "fine", that's your call. I prefer not to trump up unambitious losers.
However, yes, I do believe your definition of success conflicts with the next person's definition of success. While you are probably comparing lower paying jobs in the legal profession to flipping burger at mcdonald's, many people who have these jobs sincerely, enjoy their work. Some people are very content with these positions, while others use it as a stepping stone until they make their next career move and go forward. After a certain number of years, what "class" you are in is defined by your success in the field and work experience. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Contentment has nothing to do with success. I've met content janitors. It doesn't make toilet-scrubbing prestigious.
« on: April 02, 2006, 11:31:34 PM »
I did biglaw. Sorry.
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