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Current Law Students / Black's Legal Dictionary
« on: July 12, 2006, 12:10:48 PM »
Is this valuable to have for 1L I did some research and found Black's to pretty much be the authority on legal dictionaries, but should I shell out the 65 bucks for it now???? Anyone using it now?

Current Law Students / Re: Is there an obligation to obey the law?
« on: July 10, 2006, 09:05:50 PM »
it all depends on who you ask, there's many different theories, social contract in one, first articulated by hobbes or rouseou (sp?) that basically said  because we agree to be part of society and not live as savages we are also agreeing to follow the law that society has created.  I'm sure the philosphy people will have much more to say about than I do but i remember that vaugely from political philosphy.

Current Law Students / Suicide and Transferred Intent
« on: July 10, 2006, 03:08:03 PM »
I have a criminal law question that I was hoping someone could help me out with.  Given what happened in New York today.  If someone were to attempt to kill themselves, yet not succeed and in the process kill someone else.  Would the intent to kill then transfer from the suicide attempter on to the third party who was killed.  If it was all in the same overt action.  Say a guys tries to kill himself by torching his house and a bystander is killed by an explosion.  Would the guy then be accountable for First Degree Murder charges. Would the intentional mens rea apply or would you only be able to hold for a lesser mens rea of knowingly or recklessness.  Also I was talking to a friend about dimenished capacity defense and I was wondering if you could pass the standard, as you were fully aware of the consequences of your actions were that death could occur.  Thanks.

Widener U School of Law / Re: Class of 2009
« on: July 06, 2006, 08:09:03 PM »
I"m in for the happy hour. 

Current Law Students / Re: Soccer
« on: July 06, 2006, 08:07:20 PM »

Widener U School of Law / Re: Class of 2009
« on: July 05, 2006, 10:55:55 PM »
I intend to play soccer and hopefully rugby for Widener while i'm down there. 

Current Law Students / Re: What field of law is least stressful?
« on: July 05, 2006, 07:59:46 AM »
I know working for the government in criminal law, either as a DA or PD is not as stressful, as corp law.  A great deal of people actually enjoy it.  The hours are a lot better (you're only going to work at the most 60 hours usually more like 40-45).  However the pay is low.

Current Law Students / Re: Crappy Grades/Strong LSAT
« on: July 05, 2006, 07:55:33 AM »
Hi Everyone. I will add a foreword to my question to put everything into context
1) I'm from Canada (but open to law school in Canada/US)
2) I am completing an Undergrad (Business if it matters - 4 year Honours Degree)
3) I have bad grades (a B? My school doesn't do the GPA thing. We have leter grades (A+,A,A-)
4) I have a strong LSAT (its about the median for say Cornell or Berkley)
5) I have been in a coop program at school.  4 months work/4 months schooling (for which I'll be graduating one semester later, finishing in August, 2007 and applying for Sept 2007).  I have worked in a major international Bank on the trading floor (money markets).  When I gradute, I will have 3 x 4 months of work experience (12 mos total) + my degree.  Also a great deal of volunteer/extra curriculars.

So my questions
1) LLM or JD? Which do you need to write the bar/practise in the States? Which is recommended?
2) Good LSAT/Bad Grades.  Should I still try somewhere where my LSAT matches or go by Grades?
3) What the heck is my GPA?
4) Any general advice?

Unfortunately I am not very acquainted with lawyers, nor is there anyone I can talk to especially in my school (which doesn't have law, or very many graduate prgorams besides an MBA)
Any words of wisdom/advice will be very greatly appreciated! Thanks!

LLM or JD, the JD is the base law degree, think of it as a phd and you're LLM as your post doc.  You can not attend an LLM program with out some type of law degree in the US or oversees.

From what I've gathered a good LSAT will overshadow a poor GPA in most cases, all schools have a ratio of LSAT to GPA and you can see how important both are.  When you register for LSDAS you can find information on their site.

If you have a B you have a 3.0 GPA by most standards

You need to figure out what region you want to work in and the school type you want to spend the next three years.  Do you want to live in the northeast US or California.  Also realize that there are tiers and different schools will be able to afford you more mobility when looking for your first job.  For example, in Philly where I live, there are three differnt tiers of schools.  Penn will get you a job anywhere in the US, Temple not so much as Penn but still relativly strong and Widener will get you a good job in Philly or Delaware, but outside of that it will be difficult.  So you need to see where you want to practice and find a school accordingly.  Go to their websites, visit schools, talk to your advisors in undergrad.  You'll find a lot of people on this site are helpful and a lot are so insecure about themselves they will tear you down at every chance, don't let them affect you. 

you can message me if you have any questions, I just finished the getting into law school game this year and will answer any questions you have. 

Good Luck,


Widener U School of Law / Re: Class of 2009
« on: July 03, 2006, 10:51:24 PM »
i play racquet ball, i'm not that good but i'll play

Widener U School of Law / Re: Class of 2009
« on: June 28, 2006, 10:58:30 PM »
the lady in the financial aid office explained it to me and if i'm not mistaken the budget is what you are allowed totat, between grad plus, scholarship, grant, stafford and/or unsubed federal loans.  She broke it all down to me so it's the 44k minue your expected family contribution.  But what I don't understand fully is why the scholarship is listed as part of our budget, that in my opinion shoud be exlcuded.

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