3 years to pay off all your loans seems kind of optomistic, with taxes and cost of living it will take many years to pay off the loans.
Messages - sdlaw
« on: April 28, 2006, 02:00:30 PM »
Do not trust summer associate hours/pay big firms pay summer associates large amounts for little work to get them to become associates, then the fun ends and the work begins. They wine and dine top law students, but once your hired the free lunch ends and the hard work begins. I would say read anonymous lawyers blog to get a true view of big law life. GOOD MONEY, NO LIFE
« on: April 28, 2006, 01:57:08 PM »
many firms require around 1900-2100 hours billable. Not all hours are billable so 50-60 is about average. Gov't works less with less pay. I am sure many will say my estimates are wrong, and well they are right in that it really depends but most firms want at least 1900 billable hours. So be prepared for 60 hour weeks.
Isnt pharmacy school 6 years long? Also from what I have read with baby boomers getting older the wages of pharmacists easily reach 6 figures. Personally I think law school would be a waste of time and money, you have a great education and I would use it if I were you. I would say read some lawyer blogs such as greedy associates or anonymous lawyer and you will see that the life of a lawyer is not that desireable. Of course there are exceptions but not many lol best of luck. (ps I think you could make millions selling lawyers anti depressants)
« on: April 16, 2006, 05:12:36 PM »
Law school is unique in that in most cases 1 test determines your grade. An outline is a year or semester long process of taking your professors lectures and your reading assignmnents into something you can apply to new facts. The books for the most part are outdated cases, shortened by the books editors. Law schools claim to make students think like lawyers but well I work at a large law firm and am skeptical of this. Most law students fail in my opinion from trying to memorize case names, when that is a very small part of ones grade. Also trying to rely on commercial outlines is not advised, they can be helpfull but professors love to hear themselves. As far as loved ones go, it will be a tough time on the relationship, it is worst the first year and during the bar but it can be done. (one final note get chemerinskys con law guide)
spend the money and take a class to prep for it, if you score high enough you will get a scholarship which can save you thousands of dollars. Not studying for one of the most important tests in your life is just ridiculous, take an lsat course and also your first year put down a deposit on barbri. The rates go up every year but I believe you can lock in the current years rate for around 100 bucks. If you are in a state such as NY or CA I would also highly reccomend PMBR.
With a top 20 school I doubt you will be stuck anywhere, the downside of transferring is that you will likely have to give up a scholarship (most students eligible to transfer tend to be in the top 10-15% and the schools award money to entice them not to transfer). I have honestly never seen someone with your unique situation as the majority of transfer students do it to move up to a better law school and better job opportunities. I know my firm recruits from the top 14 schools heavily but also recruits from the top 100, and we are a big firm so I would not really worry about that aspect if its another top 20. Best of luck.
It sounds like you already know what is best, leaving a school scholarship and a known job is hard, but if you are not happy money will not make it better. I would say if you are really that unhappy then transfer, I do not know from your post if you could possibly work in another office of the firm, although I would strongly reccomend leaving on good terms, be honest with them but give them plenty of time to replace you.
I passed the actual bar that she took, I do not think she is dumb but rather was unprepared. My belief is that she thought given her experience she did not need to study, and from what I have read she was too busy to study alot. But what she failed to take into account was that she is a very talented lawyer in one area, while the bar tests on many areas. Also the bar exam likes a certain style of writing, many short paragraphs with the point being right out there rather than in the middle of a paragraph. So I would judge her failure more on being underprepared and over confident rather than stupidity.
This is from the Anonymous Lawyer blog, and no I am not him. (I am not saying I agree or disagree but it is funny)
"The article says that a drunk Harvard Law School student was arrested for flashing his genitals to oncoming traffic, and that he told the police officer he was a Harvard Law student, thinking that would make a difference.
Well of course it's going to make a difference, but he should have waited to use the trump card until he got to court. Police officers don't care who he is, but a judge sure will. We distribute a memo to our new associates every fall explaining how to use the name of the firm to their best advantage. Never with police officers, store clerks, or other quasi-homeless people like that. But with politicians, judges, and professors (i.e., "failed associates"), not to mention anyone who works in development for any cultural center, affinity group, or issue-based organization, they can get whatever they need just by dropping the name of the firm into conversation. Museum curators love us. I can cut the line at the Getty Museum, just because they think I'll convince the firm to donate some money. Partners here never pay their parking tickets, because all the judges want to use us as their landing pads once they retire from the bench and need to build a nest egg for their families. "