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Transferring / Re: Top 35 school to Georgetown?
« on: January 15, 2008, 09:20:57 AM »
I was in a similar situation last year, considered moving up but am still at a school ranked in the 30s.  I found it more difficult than I thought it'd be to find summer associate jobs but ended up being able to split with two V20 firms.  I've heard its a lot tougher to get clerkships from the lower ranked schools, but is it worth it to go so far in to debt?  From my experience, the BigLaw jobs will be there if you are top 10% and make it on Law Review at your lower ranked tier 1.  

That's good to hear you did well staying.  Did you end up staying in the same area as your school?  Another big concern that I only touched on in my previous post is that in the long run I plan on practicing in CA (though I don't mind staying on the east coast for a few years).  I'm worried that a degree from a school in the 30's will serve me poorly in that west coast job hunt down the line.

I had initially wanted to stay close to my school, but actually had better offers from out of market firms.

Another thing to keep in mind is whether or not you will be able to be on law review if you transfer.  I would imagine some employers would consider top 10% + law review at a lower tier one to be better than being near the median without law review at a T14.  Just guessing on this one though.

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Transferring / Re: Top 35 school to Georgetown?
« on: January 14, 2008, 09:52:12 PM »
I was in a similar situation last year, considered moving up but am still at a school ranked in the 30s.  I found it more difficult than I thought it'd be to find summer associate jobs but ended up being able to split with two V20 firms.  I've heard its a lot tougher to get clerkships from the lower ranked schools, but is it worth it to go so far in to debt?  From my experience, the BigLaw jobs will be there if you are top 10% and make it on Law Review at your lower ranked tier 1.  

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General Board / Re: Phone Interview Vs Face to Face
« on: January 10, 2008, 07:13:56 PM »
I had a similar situation last year, except it was a paying fellowship and the city was an hour and a half away.  The program involved interviewing with multiple agencies and they would make offers based on the interviews.  I was able to work my schedule to do face-face interviews with a few agencies and phone interviews with a few others.  I got offers from all the agencies I had face-face interviews with and rejected by all the agencies I had phone interviews with.  There is a lot to be said for making an impression in a face to face interview.  Then again, a five hour drive is pretty rough for a non-paying gig.

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General Board / Re: Evidence supplement
« on: January 05, 2008, 12:25:04 PM »
Evidence is pretty easy to understand, but there is a lot to remember.  So, any supplement with a lot of hypos and/or multiple choice questions would be useful.  I used the law in a flash flash cards but found the problems to be a bit too basic.

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2L job search / Re: S A got goodies
« on: December 09, 2007, 09:33:03 AM »
atlanta

Do most of the Atlanta firms require suits? 

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: 0L - Suggested pre-study ?
« on: December 03, 2007, 08:00:29 PM »
I read the Torts and Civ Pro E&E before school started and think it definitely helped me understand things as they came up during class, but by the time finals came around I don't know if it made that much of a difference.

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Read the E&Es throughout the semester so you just need to skim the cases when assigned in your casebook.  Use the Emanuels or Gilberts to help you outline to make sure you don't miss anything important.  The Contracts E&E hypos were very long and thus good for prepping for issue spotter exams.  I found the Torts E&E to be pretty usesless since the concepts in Torts were so easy to understand.  The other E&Es were helpful throughout

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General Board / Re: Whose Your Favorite Supreme Court Justice?
« on: November 20, 2007, 11:11:54 PM »
Alito?  What has he even written?

When is the last time you read one of his opinions?
My point exactly. 

No, but seriously, he came to my school last year for a competition and was amazingly articulate, plus i like where he usually sides on the important cases.
I hope all our Supreme Court justices are amazingly articulate.  We have 300 million people in this country.  We only need 9 supreme court justices.  I think we can get some pretty amazing ones.  They should be a whole lot more than just articulate.  I met Justice Thomas and Breyer last year and heard them both speak.  They were very impressive public speakers and pretty personable, but I kind of expect that for people who have achieved so much.   

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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Outlining - takes forever
« on: November 04, 2007, 12:21:43 AM »
I found outlining to be the second most important factor in doing well on exams.  Taking tons of practice exams after outlines were finished was the only thing I found more helpful.  Outlining does take forever, but it is worth it.

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General Board / Re: False promises at Roger Williams
« on: October 20, 2007, 11:02:08 PM »
False promises everywhere.  Even at tier 1 schools there are poeple in the top 20% who have trouble finding jobs.  I get the feeling it is very different from region to region based on where my offers came from.

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