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General Board / Re: Anybody else really glad to get an "average" grade?
« on: January 08, 2006, 08:05:41 AM »
A buddy of mine goes to Cooley and is absolutely ecstatic each and every time he gets a C.  For some reason even though Cooley is ranked super low, A C there is equal to a B+ anywhere else... and the curve is like 80% C's.  hahaha   

Survival of the fittest over there I guess.  I feel for him that would truly suck. 

Socratic Method / Re: Best study method
« on: January 07, 2006, 03:50:42 AM »
I've said this elsewhere, but if you find that outlining doesn't work for you, don't feel that you have to do it just because everyone else is.  I've never outlined and I've done very well in school.  I have a friend who only outlines if the exam is in class (rather than a take home) because he only needs to have quick access for an in class exam.  Others feel that they really learn the stuff when they have to outline to go over it.

I don't outline because I just find myself typing things in mindlessly - sometimes copying straight from the book which doesn't help me.  I tend to go through my notes (handwritten) and highlight important points, sometimes writing those points into another, more condensed notepad.  For example, for my first amendment exam I just wrote out the rules on separate pieces of paper and added notes about how to best apply them.

I'd add a few other pieces of advice: if you do buy hornbooks I'd read them during the semester - you run out of time at the end.  For example, when you start discovery in Civ Pro, I'd read the chapter on discovery in the E&E (most people say the E&E for Civ Pro is the best).  That way you get a good overview and see how the pieces fit together.

I'd also suggest writing at least one practice exam before your first set of exams.  At least for me, there was just something about that blank piece of paper and figuring out how to best structure an answer.  I know people use IRAC or whatever, but you still have to come up with the words and with that first sentence.  I remember looking around during my first exam and a full half the class couldn't figure out what to start with.

Finally, I liked reading through sample exam questions (from the prof are best though those are limited) and answers.  CrunchTime series usually has good ones for a lot of courses.  That helps you figure out how to apply the law - it isn't just about knowing the black letter law.  Most of your class will enter the exam knowing the same black letter law that you do.  To distinguish yourself you'll have to apply it well.

All I can think of now... perhaps I should get back to my own exam studies...

So how exactly did you study if you didn't outline?  I know for most people it is an incredible time commitment to outline... how else did you allocate your broad study time if not to outline?  The reason why I ask is because I don't think outlining will work for me either... or help me "think" through and learn the material.  I'll just end up copying verbatim from some commercial outline... waste my time and at the end of it have learned nothing.  I think a lot of people are scared to admit that outlining just isn't for them... simply because EVERYONE and their dog does it. 

1L job search / 1st Year Clerkships?
« on: January 07, 2006, 03:15:52 AM »
I've always heard that you're supposed to complete your first year with flying colors and then come summer get an awesome clerkship with a judge for the summer.  This is sort of a three part question: 

Does this apply to anyone no matter what field of law they want to enter? 

Are clerkships a blanket good thing to do? 

What are some other things you can do besides clerkships with judges? 

General Board / Barbri... Worth Joining your First year?
« on: January 07, 2006, 01:54:37 AM »
What really are the benefits to joining Barbri your first year of law school?  The massive book of an outline they give you?  If it is worth it I'll sign up for it if someone recommends it.  But if it's anything other than a godsend for first years it's way out of my price range.

Before I started school, several people recommended the E&E by Glannon for Civ Pro. I have to agree it was a very helpful book. We also had a book on reserve in the library that explains all the federal rules in plain English; that book saved my a$$.

I also recommend the Gilbert's property book by Dukeminier. Property got so much easier after I got this book.

Do you happen to remember the name of the book or the series?

Thanks for the advice guys!  Keep the great comments coming...  I also had sort of a follow up question... Which courses are more element based... or are all first year courses element based and would therefore require more of something like flashcards?

Thanks in advance!

Indiana - Indianapolis / Indiana University- Indy Summer Program
« on: January 05, 2006, 08:51:07 AM »
Anyone know what the program is like? 

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