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Law School Admissions / Re: Upcoming Undergrad-- Law???
« on: May 28, 2015, 07:07:11 PM »
The majority of lawyers deal with more mundane things like contract disputes, wills, divorces, and DUIs.

And don't forget personal injury/liability...those lawyers who advertise on billboards are generally looked down upon by the profession, but the ones who are successful are some of the richest practicing attorneys.

The number of California-approved but non-ABA schools plus foreign lawyers should also be considered with that bar passage rate. A more comparable # is first-time ABA takers.

Law School Admissions / Re: Upcoming Undergrad-- Law???
« on: May 28, 2015, 05:13:41 AM »
I don't have the exact quote, but there's only like a dozen lawyers who regularly deal with Constitutional issues, and they all went to Yale, Harvard or Stanford decades ago. Don't let this discourage you but you should have a realistic picture of what lawyers do.

I enjoy my job, but many find aspects to be mind-numbing. Checking evidence and that all of the metaphorical Is are dotted and Ts are crossed isn't for everyone.

Current Law Students / Re: Transferring T4 to T1 w/ top %3
« on: May 19, 2015, 04:31:15 PM »

It's worth noting that Georgetown's early action is somewhat unusual in that it doesn't require two semesters of transcripts, but if you killed it first semester seems like a good option, unless it's contingent on grades your 2nd 1L semester.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: A WARNING about Phoenix School of Law
« on: January 14, 2015, 11:40:30 AM »
As with anything you need to...what?

I have my doubts about PSL. I'd be interested in seeing what percentage of their 1Ls go on to be attorneys making money for more than a couple years. Hell, even a year of anything besides hanging out your shingle and praying. Fact is, the market sucks right now, and "even" people from schools like ASU aren't getting jobs regularly.

There may be a law school, using the term loosely, for everyone, but law school is about more than 3 years of classes and eventually passing the bar. This is not to single out PSL other than the fact that they are the topic of discussion, but I wouldn't recommend a significant minority of ABA schools either. The statistics show that unless you are well connected or go to a very top school, you are much more likely to end up having a ton of debt and wasted time with nothing to put on your résumé.

Before anyone posts back saying i know such and such lawyer who went to such and such no name school and got a great job, all I can say is good for your friend but look past the anecdotal evidence and look at the statistics. Everyone wants to be in the top 10% and law schools are great at assembling a class within a few IQ points of each other. Sorry if this comes off as harsh but that is reality these days.

Good luck to anyone facing this decision.

William Mitchell College of Law created the first part online ABA-approved JD program, starting this month:

Online Law Schools / Re: Baby bar test scores
« on: December 23, 2014, 08:35:00 PM »
Because I loved mock trial!

Sorry, couldn't resist...

General Off-Topic Board / Re: The SPAM has gotten out of control!!!!
« on: December 21, 2014, 11:26:48 AM »
I've been banning users and IPs and removing threads as fast as I can, but I can't do any kind of reprogramming of the forums.

Nope, just that OP was considering Cal Western in SD, not USD, which has tougher admissions standards.

I know nothing of firm hiring as I'm a public sector attorney. My impression was that some SD firms hire locally, but it's more about connections to San Diego than checking off a SD school box.

Secondly, I live and work in the LA area and I can tell you that none of the schools you mentioned are so prestigious that they are worth $150,000 in my opinion. No firms are going to be so impressed with a degree from Loyola or San Diego Cal Western that they will hire based on pedigree alone.
I went to law school in LA and otherwise, agreed.

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