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Transferring / Re: Transferring v. Reapplying
« on: January 11, 2013, 01:45:20 PM »
Agreed, but no one wants to take a 151 guy and put him with a bunch of 175s, even if he was getting straight As before around a bunch of other people who got 150s. I know a couple people who transferred up and regretted it because they had a big GPA drop.

Transferring / Re: Transferring v. Reapplying
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:04:21 AM »
I think the reason the OP heard it was difficult was because even top grades from a lower-ranked school won't help if your LSAT isn't up to snuff or they don't need more people. Law schools accept very few transfers, usually only to replace people they lost through attrition or transfers out.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Where should I go?
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:02:49 AM »
I think it really depends on your goals. If you want BIGLAW or something at all costs, the prestige of your school is going to matter. If your goal is to be an attorney, assuming your law school doesn't have an unreasonably low grading curve that flunks people out, it might be worth it to go to a lower-ranked school with a full ride, assuming the scholarship is guaranteed.

Be careful of the conditions of your scholarship—some schools, particularly lower-ranked ones, have conditions on the scholarship like that you maintain a certain GPA average, and if they also happen to have an unreasonably low grading curve, they may be virtually planning on some people losing their scholarship.

Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:59:12 PM »
From what I've read the only law schools that really care about "softs" are Harvad, Yale, and Standford simply because they are so competitive.  Even the other lower T14s don't care about softs that much.  Not everyone can be a the student body president, after all.
To be fair, softs are not as important as numbers, but you've gotta have something to put on your resume or law schools are going to notice. I guess it's better to have a 4.0 with no clubs than a 3.5 with tons, though.

Okay thanks guys.

To be honest, my undergraduate degree plan depends on whether I have a chance a law school or not. That's why I'm kind of freaking out.

Thanks again!

Don't do anything in undergrad just for the sake of law school. Make sure your degree is valuable to you in its own right.

The predictor doesn't take into account F's though, am I right?

The predictor takes whatever numbers you give it. Your LSAC GPA will be lower than your university GPA it sounds like due to the Fs. LSAC counts your Fs whether they were repeated or not.

Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:12:50 AM »
Put in a little effort with the international students club regularly. It's good to show some depth and breadth in student activities. You don't need to commit to dozens of hours a week but it can show that you are someone who's from a different background and tries to help others. Obviously being a URM is a huge help.

Generally, if you are still in school, law schools are interested in letters of rec from Professors, but it could help to have 1 LOR talking about how hard you've worked during school. The important part is to ask your boss or whoever writes the letter to talk about your capacity for success in law school. Something like "applicant works very hard here at work and in school, has been able to do so while being a good employee and keeping gpa up, has good organizational skills," whatever. After a while letters of rec read the same to adcomm members and they are only a soft factor, but every but helps and could be the difference between wait listed accepted and wait listed rejected at your dream schools.

Law School Applications / Re: Exaggerations on Law School Application
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:03:03 AM »
In CA, the character and fitness questionnaire doesn't ask about your extracurricular activities unless they affect your ability to practice law. I'm not sure how OP's extracurricular activities would come up in this context unless someone that OP listed as a reference mentions he lied on his law school apps instead of just checking the boxes that OP is fit to practice law.

Obviously even JohnnyStarks, the OP, knows he made a mistake. Lesson here is: don't lie! Maintain is right that you never know if it could bite you in the butt.

FWIW, I had a minor issue with C&F, reported it to my law school and the bar C&F committee, and I never heard a thing about it again except a month before the bar exam I got a letter saying I'd passed C&F. This is in CA.

The Fs will hurt you mostly through your GPA. Ws aren't a problem as long as they're not excessive.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: What do law schools look for?
« on: January 09, 2013, 07:56:40 AM »
It's better to have an upward curve than a downward one, and schools will note that, but at the end of the day, your GPA is your GPA. If there's a good enough reason to look past it, a law school will, but most people don't have a Nobel prize on their resume. At least if they're telling the truth!

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