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General Board / Re: True cost of delaying law school
« on: January 14, 2013, 03:32:54 AM »
Honestly, there's so many variables, including the fact that there's no guarantee in this market that, even after becoming an attorney, you'll make more money, that we'd need to know more about your situation to even begin to analyze it.

The variables would include your age, current salary, expected salary/area of law, how likely that is to get, promotion potential at current job/as lawyer, etc. Sorry I can't be more specific.

One way I've heard to look at is that you're losing your last year of work, which generally is among workers' highest-paid, so each year can make a difference.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Where should I go?
« on: January 11, 2013, 03:31:27 PM »
3.15 is at or above the medians at many schools outside the top 20. See if you can obtain the grading policies from the schools from which you've received scholarship offers. If the median at a school is at or below the scholarship requirement, that means there's at least a 50% chance you could lose it.

According to the Widener GPA curve is a 2.3 to 2.75, which does not bode well for maintaining a 3.0. Similarly, UBaltmore is a 2.86, which also does not make maintaining a 3.15 easy.

Remember, unlike undergrad, your Professors are virtually required to give Cs, and, depending on the severity of the curve, Ds and even Fs.

Transferring / Re: Transferring v. Reapplying
« on: January 11, 2013, 01:45:20 PM »
Agreed, but no one wants to take a 151 guy and put him with a bunch of 175s, even if he was getting straight As before around a bunch of other people who got 150s. I know a couple people who transferred up and regretted it because they had a big GPA drop.

Transferring / Re: Transferring v. Reapplying
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:04:21 AM »
I think the reason the OP heard it was difficult was because even top grades from a lower-ranked school won't help if your LSAT isn't up to snuff or they don't need more people. Law schools accept very few transfers, usually only to replace people they lost through attrition or transfers out.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Where should I go?
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:02:49 AM »
I think it really depends on your goals. If you want BIGLAW or something at all costs, the prestige of your school is going to matter. If your goal is to be an attorney, assuming your law school doesn't have an unreasonably low grading curve that flunks people out, it might be worth it to go to a lower-ranked school with a full ride, assuming the scholarship is guaranteed.

Be careful of the conditions of your scholarship—some schools, particularly lower-ranked ones, have conditions on the scholarship like that you maintain a certain GPA average, and if they also happen to have an unreasonably low grading curve, they may be virtually planning on some people losing their scholarship.

Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 10, 2013, 11:59:12 PM »
From what I've read the only law schools that really care about "softs" are Harvad, Yale, and Standford simply because they are so competitive.  Even the other lower T14s don't care about softs that much.  Not everyone can be a the student body president, after all.
To be fair, softs are not as important as numbers, but you've gotta have something to put on your resume or law schools are going to notice. I guess it's better to have a 4.0 with no clubs than a 3.5 with tons, though.

Okay thanks guys.

To be honest, my undergraduate degree plan depends on whether I have a chance a law school or not. That's why I'm kind of freaking out.

Thanks again!

Don't do anything in undergrad just for the sake of law school. Make sure your degree is valuable to you in its own right.

The predictor doesn't take into account F's though, am I right?

The predictor takes whatever numbers you give it. Your LSAC GPA will be lower than your university GPA it sounds like due to the Fs. LSAC counts your Fs whether they were repeated or not.

Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:12:50 AM »
Put in a little effort with the international students club regularly. It's good to show some depth and breadth in student activities. You don't need to commit to dozens of hours a week but it can show that you are someone who's from a different background and tries to help others. Obviously being a URM is a huge help.

Generally, if you are still in school, law schools are interested in letters of rec from Professors, but it could help to have 1 LOR talking about how hard you've worked during school. The important part is to ask your boss or whoever writes the letter to talk about your capacity for success in law school. Something like "applicant works very hard here at work and in school, has been able to do so while being a good employee and keeping gpa up, has good organizational skills," whatever. After a while letters of rec read the same to adcomm members and they are only a soft factor, but every but helps and could be the difference between wait listed accepted and wait listed rejected at your dream schools.

Law School Applications / Re: Exaggerations on Law School Application
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:03:03 AM »
In CA, the character and fitness questionnaire doesn't ask about your extracurricular activities unless they affect your ability to practice law. I'm not sure how OP's extracurricular activities would come up in this context unless someone that OP listed as a reference mentions he lied on his law school apps instead of just checking the boxes that OP is fit to practice law.

Obviously even JohnnyStarks, the OP, knows he made a mistake. Lesson here is: don't lie! Maintain is right that you never know if it could bite you in the butt.

FWIW, I had a minor issue with C&F, reported it to my law school and the bar C&F committee, and I never heard a thing about it again except a month before the bar exam I got a letter saying I'd passed C&F. This is in CA.

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