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The Fs will hurt you mostly through your GPA. Ws aren't a problem as long as they're not excessive.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: What do law schools look for?
« on: January 09, 2013, 07:56:40 AM »
It's better to have an upward curve than a downward one, and schools will note that, but at the end of the day, your GPA is your GPA. If there's a good enough reason to look past it, a law school will, but most people don't have a Nobel prize on their resume. At least if they're telling the truth!

It's very realistic to improve in the 150s with some hard studying!

Timing is definitely something you can work on, too. If you find a particularly difficult problem, it's often in your best interest to skip it and come back. Just make sure you don't mis-bubble!

By the way, I merged your threads so the discussion would be in one place.

Law School Applications / Re: Exaggerations on Law School Application
« on: January 08, 2013, 11:54:44 PM »
There's a difference between exaggeration and lying. Sometimes the two can be confused. Neither is great.

That being said, "mere puffery" to use the contracts parlance, is usually not sufficient to constitute fraud. I'd analogize something similarly to here. Did you outright lie? For #2, the answer seems yes.

The most ethical and legal thing to do would be to admit that you did this to your law school and they probably wouldn't care other than putting a note in your file. Of course, your file, including your law school application, will be sent to the state's moral character and fitness committee. The likelihood of someone from either your law school or the state bar committee finding out you made a minor lie is extremely remote.

That being said, I think you would be foolish for turning yourself. I am not advocating dishonesty, but you have already committed the error and at least for now, you've gotten away with it. Unless you're worried about getting caught, I don't see any upside to confessing other than doing the "right thing."

I really don't have any softs to put on my application.  I have some work experience, but only fast food, grocery story and working for my parent's PI office...
Sounds like you have something to put down to me. If you've done some club work, put it down. If you had to work for money to pay for school, many law school applications will accept a socioeconomic statement stating you had to work through school.

Bottom line is, make your resume professional with your part time jobs and list a few activities and you shouldn't get any raised eyebrows. Not everyone can be student body president, nor is that necessarily what law schools are looking for in everyone.

Law schools only look at your college grades. Your best bet is to go somewhere where will you succeed in your own goals for undergrad, not what you think will help for law school. For what it's worth, going to a lower-ranked school where you can achieve a 4.0 might work out better than going to a tougher school, unless the tougher school has a higher grading curve, as is the case with Ivy league and other schools.

Law School Applications / Re: Taking Paralegal courses before applying?
« on: January 08, 2013, 01:59:56 AM »
A foreign bachelor's degree GPA won't be standardized by CAS and included in your GPA. Neither will any post-BA work, such as paralegal courses now.

Other than making you look like you're interested in the law and providing you a valuable backup option, paralegal courses won't help that much with law school.

Non-Traditional Students / Re: Looking for some advice....
« on: January 06, 2013, 03:49:55 AM »
Generally speaking, you'll need more than just a community college degree to apply to law school, but starting there is fine. Hopefully there is a reasonably priced 4-year institution nearby. Obviously law schools understand that not everyone who is potentially successful can afford to immediately attend a 4-year university.

As for your major, it doesn't really matter, but majors that focus on analysis, reading, and writing are generally best. A lot of people that apply to law school are criminal justice majors but you shouldn't pick a major based on its value to law school because there is none and the degree should be valuable in it of itself. For what it's worth, anecdotal and statistical evidence suggests criminal justice is not great preparation for law school. It's usually geared towards those who want to become police officers, and though it gives you a superficial understanding of some aspects of the law, it doesn't particularly help with law school.

I don't think you are ever too old to go back to school unless you have obligations that are preventing you. However, as the above poster said, debt at your age could be more of a serious concern, because the potential return on your investment in higher education is less.

Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 06, 2013, 03:44:12 AM »
The most important thing is to keep your grades up. If you truly work 30 hours plus every week during undergrad, you should definitely write an economic/diversity statement to that effect. Include anything relevant about your upbringing and parents, culture, etc. Make sure the volunteer stuff is on your resume.

That being said, it couldn't hurt to have at least one serious student club or activity involvement, something with regular meetings where you can become an officer. It's better to focus on one or two things than join a dozen clubs and never do anything or spread yourself too thin.

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