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General Board / Re: lobbists
« on: December 24, 2012, 10:18:26 PM »
Not sure what you mean by state board for being licensed to practice law, since D.C. isn't a state but lawyers from states can be admitted to the bar there, often without examination.

As the above poster said, you do not need to be a lawyer to be a legislator(or aide) or lobbyist, it's just very common because the law is a very systematic way to understand government.

I struggled with Community Property (at an ABA school) and it was my lowest grade. It is true that some specifics of statutes may not be tested, but there are many small concepts in community property (and the related wills subject) that can be tested and you need to know them all for the bar examination. For example, Question 2 of the July 2012 California Bar Exam was a somewhat difficult Community Property/Professional Responsibility crossover that tested a small but important area of CP. is the link.

District courts may not have a bar exam, but state bar exams test Federal law through constitutional law and evidence at a minimum.

General Board / Re: Additional Easy Bar Admissions
« on: December 20, 2012, 08:52:51 PM »
So essentially, almost anyone admitted to practice in a state or appropriate jurisdiction can waive into D.C. without an exam, eh? Thank you for this.

Law School Applications / Re: GPA padding.
« on: December 15, 2012, 05:28:21 PM »
Also, I believe that only courses taken before the receipt of your first bachelors degree count.

It's unlikely that state bar rules can be challenged due to the commerce clause. I'm assuming you mean the dormant commerce clause because the ICC would clearly favor more regulation, but by the Feds, not the states.

I seem to remember a case from Con Law in the '50s or '60s when someone challenged the bar admission rules under the privileges and immunities clause, probably something about requiring that a state allow non-residents to take their bar exam. But I don't see how the ICC or the dormant commerce clause could be used to challenge state bar rules when it's long established that each state sets its own bar, literally, including the admissions standards (and doesn't discriminate against the privileges and immunities clause, although I could see how you could try to make that argument, likely unsuccessfully).

So as a follow-up, I needed to fail the first time.  I PASSED the october FYLSE - don't know the score yet, snail mail;)

Law School Applications / Re: Resume
« on: December 13, 2012, 04:11:26 PM »
I do not know if most people want to submit a C.V. for law school applications. It makes sense for some people with significant undergraduate research or other graduate school work. You are applying to an academic institution, but not academia itself. In the end most people will probably be best served by a business resume since that's what you'd be sending out as a lawyer.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Book of 101 LSAT Tips
« on: December 13, 2012, 04:08:42 PM »
Looks good, thank you for posting!

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Baby Bar
« on: December 10, 2012, 01:39:32 PM »
BTW, on the bar 65 is passing for the essays. Is that the same for the FYLSE? If so a 60 doesn't seem so bad, certainly capable of being remedied.

Sounds like some jennid knows the law but needs more essay practice. Have someone look at the essays to see what simple things you can do to improve your formatting and style.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: military options
« on: December 09, 2012, 12:41:21 AM »
JAG, regardless of the branch, is extremely competitive these days, and even if you don't deploy, the attitude that you want to will go far.

Unfortunately, none of the military branches will pay for college and law school ahead of time.

The question is: Are you more dedicated to becoming a military officer or an attorney? Remember, JAG officers are officers first.

If you're more interested in becoming an officer, ROTC during college is a great way to pay for it. If you've got good scores and a law school acceptance in hand you can apply for Educational Delay and go to law school, hoping to snag a JAG spot, but that won't be guaranteed. The other option is working for 2-4 years and then applying for the Funded Legal Education Program(FLEP, varies by branch). There's a small number of active duty officers selected to attend law school with a full ride from the government and continue to be paid while in school. It's a great deal if you can get it but you'd generally need to have a Tier 1 acceptance in hand to even be considered.

The bottom line is, there are many ways to serve and paths to becoming a Judge Advocate. Depending on your interests and branch, you have a few routes. But you absolutely have to be prepared to be an officer and serve in a combat zone.

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