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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Is this a "bill or attainder" moment?
« on: July 09, 2014, 07:03:02 PM »
No, as they are seeking to change a statute of general applicability that will no more affect Hobby Lobby or a specific religion than RFRA itself.

While I'm no constitutional scholar, it's my recollection that bills of attainder would potentially violate other constitutional rights, not statutory rights, like RFRA. It's important to remember that SCOTUS decided Hobby Lobby based on RFRA, not the Constitution.

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M / Re: Monterey College of Law
« on: July 09, 2014, 06:56:43 PM »
I actually think attrition is a good thing and despite rumors no school anywhere would impose a mandatory kick out rate. I have heard rumors about a number of schools that are required to  kick out 25% of the first class, but that makes no sense why would a school want to kick out paying students? The answer is they don't, but they do have some ethical obligation to dismiss a student they know has no chance of passing the bar.

There are documented cases of schools with GPA curves and academic probation policies that are certain to fail out students each year. A student has expended significant time and money to attend the first year of law school, without mentioning opportunity costs. Those programs should only accept students that have a chance at passing the bar, but they accept more and have mandatory attrition to increase income.

It's a dodge to blame academic attrition on a supposed ethical obligation to discontinue the studies of those who have no chance at passing the bar when the law school should have known before admitting the student that the student had no chance at passing the bar.

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M / Re: Monterey College of Law
« on: July 08, 2014, 08:35:30 PM »
Indeed, attrition is a particularly worrisome issue at both lower-ranked ABA and non-ABA schools given the investment of time and money.

I would also be interested in what the causes of attrition are and the grading policy.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Thoughts? Where should I go
« on: July 07, 2014, 12:15:25 AM »
Agreed with above poster about geography. You'll need to network, intern and summer at places near the region you want to work. That'll be much more difficult if you attend law school out of state.

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I wonder if Philosophy would do better if it were separate from religion.

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did we ever, um...you know?

To whom was this directed?

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I know someone who went there. She actually was able to get an indefinite paid law clerk position in the DA's office after graduating but before taking the bar so she did that for a couple years. No idea if she ever passed the bar though.

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From the state of LA?

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Blast from the past part deux.

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Law School Applications / Re: Prestige of UG
« on: March 17, 2013, 12:49:53 AM »
It's largely irrelevant where you went to undergrad. What matters is your GPA and the percentile your GPA represents. After that, maybe the name of your school, if well-known, might be considered, but in a very minimal way.

Truth is that the advantage of going to certain elite school is their high GPA curves, but that could be the same at Middle State U, it just depends. Some state schools have high medians, some are low, regardless of US News ranking.

What above poster said about many students at elite law schools attending elite universities is true, but I offer a different explanation: higher quality students at elite universities are likely to earn higher LSATs and other factors that make them more attractive to elite law schools. The average LSAT from elite school undergrads is significantly higher than most.

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