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So many things to respond to...

Never heard of these rules of professional procedure and I'm from a border state.

Not sure those lawyers are advocating anyone break the law either or what exactly this supposed epidemic of illegal legal advice is.

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Politics and Law-Related News / Re: POTUS
« on: August 19, 2015, 06:14:28 PM »
So, um, yeah. This is why I don't find your facts very credible. More importantly, though, getting back to the OP, I have followed politics long enough to not get too concerned about day-to-day. For example, the reason that Christie is doomed isn't because of bridgegate- it's because he has no GOP support- either with the establishment any more (he burned those, um, bridges) and certainly not with the base.

Would you say he burned those "tunnels" of support?

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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 14, 2015, 01:01:48 PM »
There's no way you'd get more than $4000 approved in fee agreements, especially if the cases were as little work as you claim. Furthermore, the fee agreements would have to be approved by a U.S. ALJ, a fact you failed to mention and your post suggests you were not aware.

Finally, I'm not sure who the barb about getting a license to practice is aimed at, but everyone here has held themselves out to be a licensed attorney.

I am sure you are right, 4K seems OK for a SSD case to me but I really haven't done any for a long time.  But these are great cases for a beginner, attorneys turn their noses up at them and the clients really do need help.  I always went the extra mile too and helped my clients get aid while they sweated out the long wait for a reconsideration or hearing.

No offense intended GH but I would not assume everyone here is an attorney otherwise they would know new lawyers don't know crap and need to get smart real fast about how to practice by attending court and hitting the practice books.

$4,000 seems ok? That was the statutory maximum at the time of claimed SSI practice.

As far as assuming, no offense yourself but I'll repeat what I said: everyone here has, in some form or another, asserted that they are licensed to practice law. But that doesn't really change the substantive nature of this conversation.

I find it hard to believe there's a town so small it doesn't have enough lawyers yet it also somehow has enough folks to provide a steady stream of SSI cases (before boomers got old), civil rights cases and court appointed referrals for a newly minted lawyer to make $100k. It literally and figuratively doesn't add up. This kind of "advice" is dangerous given how relatively little prospective law school applicants know.

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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 14, 2015, 11:01:34 AM »
There's no way you'd get more than $4000 approved in fee agreements, especially if the cases were as little work as you claim. Furthermore, the fee agreements would have to be approved by a U.S. ALJ, a fact you failed to mention and your post suggests you were not aware.

Finally, I'm not sure who the barb about getting a license to practice is aimed at, but everyone here has held themselves out to be a licensed attorney.

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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 14, 2015, 09:01:55 AM »
SSI fee agreements were the lesser of $4000 or 25% past due benefits. You must've had a lot of successful cases with back pay in your first year. How did you become competent in the area?

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Oh, I agree: trying to get at your larger point that student and school quality matters, even with a tough bar like CA.

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The top 4 schools or so in CA typically average that but afterwards there is a steep drop off.

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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 13, 2015, 06:35:26 PM »
Two hours may not be ideal, but one could split the difference and live an hour away from each.

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Online Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 13, 2015, 04:43:29 PM »
I think the typical right out of undergrad student is better served going to an ABA-School, but a 38 year old married professional with lets say two kids that lives in lets just say Boise Idaho with the nearest ABA School U of Idaho 500 miles away attending a non-aba school is not a realistic option. They could move their family, lose jobs and pay $100,000 while losing their income to attend an ABA school or if those costs are true put a few $1,000 down and continuing living their life. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out.  In that scenario going to an ABA school makes no sense a DL school does.

If that student passes the California Bar then they might have to Petition the Idaho Bar to take the exam, but under those facts and having passed the Cali-Exam I think a court would allow it, but no guarantees. Again, those all considerations a non-aba grad would have to take into consideration.

I think the issue with a lot of bloggers etc is that they only see their scenario and for an unattached single person right out of undergrad they can realistically move anywhere and they have years to recoup their educational investment. So in that scenario yea attend an ABA school, but not everyone has that setup.

So this Boise, ID graduate is going to go to Taft online, take the California bar, and roll the dice on a novel lawsuit that would ask the state bar of Idaho to overturn its rules? I don't think so.

The applicable rule, 207 (j) from the Idaho bar states, "The Supreme Court, upon application, may in its discretion vary the application or waive any provision of this rule where strict compliance will cause undue hardship to the Applicant." There is no way the Idaho Supreme Court is going to consider a non-approved law school to be relief from "strict" compliance or that your inability to attend an ABA-accredited law school will count as undue hardship.

Your argument fails both prongs of the actual rule, when both are required for your theory. I am concerned because this took all of 1 minute to google given what we as attorneys know, but I sincerely hope you do not encourage someone less familiar with bar admissions to think such a path is reasonable.

Finally, the fact that Boise, a regional legal market, is without an ABA-school or even a state-approved one is a rather unique situation.

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How many lawyers actually orally argue cases in front of a judge, though?

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