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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 14, 2015, 11:01:55 AM »
SSI fee agreements were the lesser of $4000 or 25% past due benefits. You must've had a lot of successful cases with back pay in your first year. How did you become competent in the area?

Oh, I agree: trying to get at your larger point that student and school quality matters, even with a tough bar like CA.

The top 4 schools or so in CA typically average that but afterwards there is a steep drop off.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 13, 2015, 08:35:26 PM »
Two hours may not be ideal, but one could split the difference and live an hour away from each.

Distance Education Law Schools / Re: taft law school
« on: August 13, 2015, 06:43:29 PM »
I think the typical right out of undergrad student is better served going to an ABA-School, but a 38 year old married professional with lets say two kids that lives in lets just say Boise Idaho with the nearest ABA School U of Idaho 500 miles away attending a non-aba school is not a realistic option. They could move their family, lose jobs and pay $100,000 while losing their income to attend an ABA school or if those costs are true put a few $1,000 down and continuing living their life. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out.  In that scenario going to an ABA school makes no sense a DL school does.

If that student passes the California Bar then they might have to Petition the Idaho Bar to take the exam, but under those facts and having passed the Cali-Exam I think a court would allow it, but no guarantees. Again, those all considerations a non-aba grad would have to take into consideration.

I think the issue with a lot of bloggers etc is that they only see their scenario and for an unattached single person right out of undergrad they can realistically move anywhere and they have years to recoup their educational investment. So in that scenario yea attend an ABA school, but not everyone has that setup.

So this Boise, ID graduate is going to go to Taft online, take the California bar, and roll the dice on a novel lawsuit that would ask the state bar of Idaho to overturn its rules? I don't think so.

The applicable rule, 207 (j) from the Idaho bar states, "The Supreme Court, upon application, may in its discretion vary the application or waive any provision of this rule where strict compliance will cause undue hardship to the Applicant." There is no way the Idaho Supreme Court is going to consider a non-approved law school to be relief from "strict" compliance or that your inability to attend an ABA-accredited law school will count as undue hardship.

Your argument fails both prongs of the actual rule, when both are required for your theory. I am concerned because this took all of 1 minute to google given what we as attorneys know, but I sincerely hope you do not encourage someone less familiar with bar admissions to think such a path is reasonable.

Finally, the fact that Boise, a regional legal market, is without an ABA-school or even a state-approved one is a rather unique situation.

How many lawyers actually orally argue cases in front of a judge, though?

« on: August 06, 2015, 01:17:07 PM »
Maybe TLS or jdunderground. Many people went on with their lives and legal careers.

Personal Statement / Re: Personal Statement - Please Critique!
« on: August 05, 2015, 08:02:56 PM »
its a personal statement, I think mine said "I like pie" in it.
I'm glad you can bottom line it, but if I saw that in a PS I would write a special email to the director and/or dean of admissions urging you to not be accepted.

This scream of boomer. "I did it.........and it was HARDER when I did it (even if it was actually super easier) SO PUNISH THOSE THAT COME AFTER ME!!!!!!!!"

I'm 29. If I and everyone before me did it, they can too. I agree with citylaw: I've earned the right to female dog. That's less expense and time stuck in a hotel.

The problem is also that CA allows almost anyone with a pulse to take the bar.

And citylaw, I wouldn't worry about Chemerinsky. He did fine at my school and writing books long before he went down to Irvine.

I definitely hold my Cal bar 3-day preftige over other attorneys licensed elsewhere on a daily basis.

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