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General Board / Re: The bar exam is tomorrow...
« on: July 28, 2008, 03:49:12 PM »
Good luck to everyone.  :D

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Law School Applications / Re: 170/3.86 Where do I have a shot?
« on: July 28, 2008, 03:47:37 PM »
No.  I came into this thread to answer a set of legitimate questions (and it's abundantly clear he had legitimate questions now).  You came into this thread to complain about it.  It happens all the time at forums like this, although rarely to people with 170 or lower, and is really tedious and unhelpful.  It's clear what the thread is about-if you don't like it, just don't open it.

The only people who don't have anything to ask that we can help answer have 4.0/180.  Even if it's just for reassurance or anecdotes or general advice, a poster with 170/3.86 (especially one who was considering binding ED at George Washington) has every right to seek advice here.

Just like I have a right to comment on these types of posts as well. If you don't like my comment, then just don't respond to it.

Also, what exactly have you answered that the OP probably didn't already know? I know you like to think that you are being helpful, but in reality, you're not. You aren't adding anything to the table that is not known by anyone already. This is exactly why I think these types of threads are ridiculous. Everyone (like yourself) is just passing on ancedotal knowledge that can be easily attained by just skimming through previous posts. What you have said has been said a thousand times before. In fact, you're probably just regurgitating something that you've read or heard before as well. You (and everyone else who tries to give "advice" on these types of posts) aren't reinvinting the wheel, you're just retreading it.

So yes, I came onto this thread to complain about it. Because quite honestly, I get a little sick of people asking age old questions and then having people like you come along to give age old answers.

And please don't think that I'm personally attacking you or the OP. I'm just stating my opinion on the "ridiculousness" of this type of post.  ;)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: July 27, 2008, 04:32:14 PM »

Even with your curren score PLUS URM status, you have a good chance of getting into some lower Top 14 law schools, especially Cornell, Georgetown, Duke and particularly Boalt.  You should also apply to Vandy and others. With a degree from those schools, you're virtually guaranteed a six figure income.  With a degree from FSU, you have to be close to the top to get a six figure job.

As if a six figure income is all that matters in a legal education! I guess I missed that memo.

Most people want this out of law school, fwiw.

Quite frankly, they are probably picking the wrong profession. For the hours you have to work at a big law firm, you are a complete idiot to go to law school to make $160k per year and top out at around $2-5 million a year when you can find other professions that top in the hundreds of millions. Managers of small hedge funds work the hours of a big law associate but make $40 million per year. Managers of moderate to large hedge funds make $400-$800 million per year. Some make over a billion annually. CEOs of large companies make comparable money. If you're going to chase the almighty dollar, law school is a low rent way to do it (at least big law firm work). You can parlay a legal education into that kind of career, for sure. Big firm work is plantation labor in comparison.



And CEO positions and Hedge fund manager positions are just SOOOOOOOOOO easy to get.   ::)

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Law School Applications / Re: 170/3.86 Where do I have a shot?
« on: July 27, 2008, 04:19:24 PM »
Even if this kind of post is ridiculous (and it's not), posts about how ridiculous this kind of post is are necessarily more ridiculous.  You can tell what kind of thread it is without even opening it, so don't open it.


Actually it is a very ridiculous post. Common sense dictates that the OP would just apply to every top 20 school and see where he lands. Its that simple. He knows that, and so does everyone else.

And BTW, posts about how ridiculous a post's comment on the ridiculousness of a post is even more ridiculous than all other posts.  ;)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: 159 Lsat, 3.9 GPA-Florida Schools
« on: July 26, 2008, 02:31:39 PM »
The state of Florida does not practice AA, so it doesn't matter. Your numbers are fine for any of the law schools in FL. People with lower numbers than yours get into UF and FSU. Good luck!

You're correct that the official policy of the State of Florida is to not practice AA. However.... I know several FSU law students who are African American and received substantial (if not full) scholarships when they did not have the typical numbers to receive these types of scholarships. (in fact, for several of them, their numbers were substantially below even the 25% ranges of LSAT and GPA) I'm not saying AA is a bad thing in most aspects, but even though its not the official policy of the State of Florida to practice AA, it doesn't mean its not done.

To the OP: Regardless of what you decide, you should be fine at FSU with your GPA and LSAT. You should also be good at UF. However.... I knew at least one girl at FSU Law who had basically your same numbers, (and a UF alumn). FSU accepted her right off the bat, but UF Law took forever to accept her. She actually purposely decided NOT to attend UF because of this. (took it as a slap in the face actually...she was a part of UF's hall of fame, and they still did this to her)

Good luck.

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Law School Applications / Re: 170/3.86 Where do I have a shot?
« on: July 26, 2008, 11:47:58 AM »
These types of posts are ridiculous. I'm pretty sure the OP already knows where he had a shot. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Also, if you do have a 170/3.86, you're obviously a smart individual, so why ask the obvious unless you want someone to stroke your ego?

 ::)

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So you guys have done 1200 and reviewed explanations?  That is insane.


I just did 50, so now I am up to 400 or so.  I thought I did really horrible, I couldn't even keep my eyes open.  But I got 84%, which would come out to a 176 on the full test.  I know that is an anamoly, but it is still an ego boost.

I will have done 1200 when I take my last practice MBE tomorrow. But its still not anywhere near what PMBR recommended. (and by the way.... having taken PMBR's practice MBE, and a real previously released MBE, I've got to say that PMBR's is a lot harder than the actual MBEs)

To echo everyone else, everyone learns differently, so you don't have to do that many practice questions just so long as you can learn the material. Just doing practice questions does you no good unless you understand the material, and WHY you got it right, or WHY you got it wrong. This isn't like the LSAT.

Also, I've pretty much stopped being insane on my studying too. I'll do a simulated MBE tomorrow, but for the past week and a half,(and for the rest of this week) I've just been reading over materials, and looking at old Georgia essays and their answers. Because lets face it, if we don't know the law at this point, we're not going to learn it in 5 days.

For those of you taking the MPT: How are you approaching this? I have a "mpt trainer" course, but I've found that its basically for idiots who don't know how to write a closed memo (or client letter, or whatever it is they ask you to draft). So I basically scrapped it. I think the best thing to do with this is just know what the format of the MPT is, and then don't be freaked out when you only have 90 minutes to do it. It seems like a fairly straightforward task in that you are given the law, and then you have to do a task.

Any thoughts out there?

Bar/Bri gave us a book of old MPTs.  I ran through a "client letter" one the other day, reading the library and outlining an answer, just to get into the swing of the "normal" legal analysis again.  I'll probably just read through some of their example formats that are foreign to me (like the ones that ask you to draft a contract or a will) just so I've seen it.  But otherwise, I'm not going to do much.  I don't see how you can do much.

The only good advice Bar/Bri gave is to read the call of the question first in the memo/assignment (e.g. what issues you have to address), and then go right to the library and outline the "law" on the issue, and then, last, read the facts.  That's pretty much the only way I see to do it within 90 minutes, but the knee jerk reaction to go through in order and read the facts second (since they come before the law).



Yeah that pretty much how I planned on doing it.

BTW, if I hear "call of the question" ever again after the Bar Exam, I think I might punch someone.  ;)

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General Board / Re: thoughts as the bar exam approaches:
« on: July 23, 2008, 06:04:51 PM »
Remedies, Secured Transactions and Commercial Paper can go screw themselves.


Echoed. Include Evidence in there for me.

BTW, you're taking the GA bar right? Do you really think that Remedies will be that big of a deal. I mean a lot of it seems like pretty much common sense, but I don't know....

Also, what do you think about Federal Jurisdiction? I was thinking that it wouldn't be a big deal until I started looking at past exams and it seems like there's a Jurisdiction essay on about every other exam. WTF? I thought the essays were supposed to be State Specific? Anyway......

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So you guys have done 1200 and reviewed explanations?  That is insane.


I just did 50, so now I am up to 400 or so.  I thought I did really horrible, I couldn't even keep my eyes open.  But I got 84%, which would come out to a 176 on the full test.  I know that is an anamoly, but it is still an ego boost.

I will have done 1200 when I take my last practice MBE tomorrow. But its still not anywhere near what PMBR recommended. (and by the way.... having taken PMBR's practice MBE, and a real previously released MBE, I've got to say that PMBR's is a lot harder than the actual MBEs)

To echo everyone else, everyone learns differently, so you don't have to do that many practice questions just so long as you can learn the material. Just doing practice questions does you no good unless you understand the material, and WHY you got it right, or WHY you got it wrong. This isn't like the LSAT.

Also, I've pretty much stopped being insane on my studying too. I'll do a simulated MBE tomorrow, but for the past week and a half,(and for the rest of this week) I've just been reading over materials, and looking at old Georgia essays and their answers. Because lets face it, if we don't know the law at this point, we're not going to learn it in 5 days.

For those of you taking the MPT: How are you approaching this? I have a "mpt trainer" course, but I've found that its basically for idiots who don't know how to write a closed memo (or client letter, or whatever it is they ask you to draft). So I basically scrapped it. I think the best thing to do with this is just know what the format of the MPT is, and then don't be freaked out when you only have 90 minutes to do it. It seems like a fairly straightforward task in that you are given the law, and then you have to do a task.

Any thoughts out there?

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Yeah, but can you listen to your Emo music on your I-pod while riding your "fixie?"




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