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Current Law Students / Re: DRIVING WITH MONEY IS A CRIME
« on: September 19, 2006, 01:56:26 PM »
Basically all cash has come in contact with drugs at some point while in circulation.  It's not the least bit surprising that a drug dog alerted to it.  I don't find the fact that the drug dog alerted to it to be the least bit convincing as evidence that the guy was involved in drugs.

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Current Law Students / Re: Legal Writing Sucks
« on: April 10, 2006, 02:40:04 PM »
My LRW experience definitely sucked.  If I could have taken it with a different professor, I might have actually learned something.  My professor spent more time going over how many/where the federal districts are in my state than she spent teaching us how to write a good brief.  I wish I could have had a nickel for every time she said "when you're working in a firm this summer they will be SO impressed that you know where the districts are".  Personally, I think they would be more impressed by good memo-writing and legal researching skills.  Her idea of teaching us legal research was to dump us in the library for a class period while she hung out in her office.  Also, she accused one of my classmates of plagiarizing from the sample memo in the back of our book because the student used ONE WORD (and not an uncommon word at that) that was in the sample memo.  Needless to say, she didn't bother making formal charges against the guy - she just wrote at the end of his paper that he had plagiarized because he had used this one word that was in the sample memo, and she didn't think he was capable of coming up with that word on his own.  She wrote on the back of several students' papers that they would never become lawyers.  Fortunately I was lucky enough to avoid this criticism, and most of the students she did say it to have proven her wrong - they are doing quite well and are nearing graduation. 

For our ethics writing assignment, she had been telling us for weeks that she was working on writing the assignment.  When we finally got it, it was an exercise in writing point headers that she had copied out of a book.  Some ethics assignment...  not to mention that for our first brief her assignment had us representing both the debtor on a loan and the guarantor of the loan - people with obviously conflicting interests.  Oh, and she wanted us to argue that service of process was improper on a 17-year-old straight-A student who was about to go to college (the daughter of the guarantor) when we were finding case law that said service of process was proper on a young child (7 or 8 I think) and on someone who barely spoke English.  Can you say frivolous argument?  On top of that, she told us to completely ignore part of the relevant legal standard for the issue involved.

Don't even get me started on oral arguments - her idea of teaching us that was to e-mail us a link to what she considered to be a bad oral argument.  Then, when she graded our oral arguments, she gave a higher grade to a guy who muttered "Oh s***" while at the podium than to students (myself included) who remained calm and composed during argument.  Since this was one of the few assignments that was not blind-graded, and this guy was one of her pet students, I think this is a prime example of her playing favorites.

I feel like I got cheated out of 5 credit hours worth of tuition...

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Current Law Students / Done!
« on: December 16, 2005, 08:15:04 AM »
I just finished editing my take home professional responsibility exam.  Once I turn it in I'm done for the semester.  Oh, and I am now officially halfway through law school!!!

So good luck to everyone that still has finals, but if you're done you can express your joy/tiredness/excitement/plans for forgetting the torture of the past few weeks here!   ;D

My friends and I are going to meet for lunch at a sushi bar, then I'm gonna go home and sleep for about a week...

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Current Law Students / Re: Evidence final
« on: December 09, 2005, 08:04:13 AM »
I've never had an open book exam - closest thing to it is that my Civ Pro professor let us bring a short outline and the FRCP.  I think the majority of exams should be open book - I think I would be less stressed if they were...

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Current Law Students / Re: How 'bout a study break?
« on: December 09, 2005, 08:00:52 AM »
Yeah, there are two professors with the last name Johnson.  I had Danne Johnson for Civ Pro, and Barry Johnson for Torts.  I don't know what he's like for crim law, but I liked his torts class and did pretty well in it.  I had LeFrancois for crim law, and now for crim procedure.  He has a very sarcastic, dry sense of humor - keeps things interesting...   I'm taking my evidence final today at 2 pm - not sure that I'm ready for it... there's too much to remember and my professor suddenly decided to not let us have the Fed Rules of Evidence with us on the final, after saying all semester that it would be provided...

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Current Law Students / Re: How 'bout a study break?
« on: December 08, 2005, 10:58:34 PM »
Study break sounds good - but I have so much more to study for my final tomorrow afternoon.

Trouble - I go to your school - who do you have for Civ Pro?  I had Prof. Johnson, but I don't think she's teaching it this year...

Good luck on finals, everybody... it will be Christmas break before we know it  :)

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Current Law Students / Evidence final
« on: December 07, 2005, 05:56:07 PM »
This whole semester my evidence professor has been telling us that he will provide a copy of the Federal Rules of Evidence during the final.  Less than a week before the exam (right after we turned in our professor evaluation forms  ::) ) he decides that we will NOT be allowed to have the FRE during the exam...

I guess this is mainly a chance to vent, but it also makes me wonder what the norm is at other schools - do your professors let you have this kind of stuff for the final (FRCP for Civ Pro, FRE for Evidence, UCC for Contracts, etc.)?

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Current Law Students / Re: Mandatory Attendance
« on: August 28, 2005, 02:56:44 PM »
My school has mandatory attendance, and it usually works something like this: You may miss X number of classes without any effect on your grade.  If you miss any over that amount, your grade is dropped one level (i.e. a B becomes a B-) for EACH absence over the allowed number.  The professors are allowed to set the number of classes you may miss, with most choosing to give us somewhere around 4-6.  Many of them base the allowed absences on the number of times per week that the class meets.  I do have one professor that says you get X number of absences, and anything higher than that results in an F.  In every one of my classes we either sign a roll sheet or the professor takes attendance from a seating chart.

My opinion is that (a) we are paying BIG bucks to go to law school, and that is incentive enough to attend and (b) if you're smart enough to miss a lot of class and still ace the final, more power to you.  People should be responsible for their own choices regarding how well they want to do in law school.  I know the ABA requires a certain level of attendance, but I'm also getting really tired of unnecessary rules.

Furthermore, one of my pet peeves is when a professor tries to show how much "control" s/he has over the class.  We are adults, and we are here to learn.  We are not here to be intimidated or to hear how great you think you are.

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Current Law Students / This is a strange question...
« on: August 27, 2005, 03:47:48 PM »
... but what is your school's policy about bathroom breaks during class?  This has become a hot topic at my school recently because a few professors have banned bathroom breaks during their classes. 


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