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General Board / Re: What is the best Con Law Supplement
« on: March 20, 2006, 11:54:14 PM »
Coincidence, I have the same book!

I don't know if it will help that much, depending on your prof's approach, but the best supplement from what I've heard is Chemerinsky's (but it's almost as thick as the casebook...).

I also have this...it is great.

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St. Marys / Re: Newer 1Ls (2006)
« on: March 05, 2006, 10:54:02 PM »
any journal other than the main law review of a school is a lower tiered journal by default...

However, you are correct that some might still pursue a secondary journal if it is in a specialty they hope to practice in...

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General Board / Re: Has anyone been a bailiff for a trial competition?
« on: March 01, 2006, 07:00:29 PM »
i guess that depends on your school...at mine, only judges and competitors had to dress up, everyone else was very casual...(witnesses or bailiffs)

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General Board / Re: caught for plagiarism at my school
« on: March 01, 2006, 12:23:57 AM »
Another thought...

This may actually be collaboration and not plagiarism....unless you were told, as part of the assignment, to list all sources used...then you may not have plagiarized...

Normally that term refers to copying, or drawing from another's ideas without giving credit...but a memo is a different breed of writing...in fact lawyer's usually do copy memos that are in the office files (though that is with permission).

Anyway, you may still have cheated, or collaborated, or simply violated the rules of the assignment, but you may have a loophole there to avoid getting more than the F...

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General Board / Re: rule of perpetuities...?????
« on: March 01, 2006, 12:15:18 AM »
our midterm had a conveyance that we had to invalidate using RAP...had a life estate determinable followed by a vested remainder in fee simple, subject to open, with an executory limitation...

because it was subject to open (person with life estate could have more kids), the RAP kicked in as a relevant life in being (a future child) was not alive at the time of the original grant....

fun...

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Socratic Method / Re: Why is law school taught the way it is?
« on: February 25, 2006, 04:41:15 PM »
To quote a church-goer's defense of their worship service:

"It's not tradition, it's just how we've always done it."

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lord i wouild never want you to be my lawyer, a south african law degree come on now thats madness.

I love how you never respond to the arguments presented...

If it is madness, then I guess you can now ridicule your own state bar...as it allows for this possibility.

BTW - would you find a degree from Canada, Australia, or the UK more acceptable? Or are you just against anything that is non ABA...
If you would look at the NY Bar site, you would have seen that all law degrees that are from DL study are not allow to take the Bar exam in NY.  This rule changed about two years ago. Also in TX the same rule applies. There is a HB in the state that is trying to change the rule and allow DL grads that have passed the bar take the TX bar after 3-5 years of practice.  For the most part, all states except for a couple will make DL lawyers that are bar in CA work for about 5-10 years before they could even think of taking the bar exam.  Now the rules for TX and NY are different if you attended a state approved school in person.  The wait to take the NY and TX bar would only be 3 years.  People who get DL law degrees from the UK or anywhere else overseas is just wasting time and money.

that is good to know - that one must actually physically attend the foreign school -  I had missed that...of course that's why I prefaced that anyone considering should really look into it...

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Texas,
To what extent, if any, do you think the degree helped your chances of admission to law school?
And, wow, 45,000 words - I wrote about 20,000 in college which ended up at about 75 pages. Good work.

Thanks...

I don't if it helped that much - simply because it was still "in progress" last year during the admissions cycle.
However, I think it will help my odds at transferring this year...

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Any philosophy majors out there? History majors?

Graduate research degree in theology - 45,000 word thesis -

Analyzing theology written by PhDs and DThs makes Supreme Court Rulings read like Mark Twain...Top 5% in my class, and finished with the high grade in one class and the 2nd highest in another...

Plus, all that argument building in my thesis has really helped me to communicate legal arguments...

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: My Savior Duckasouras
« on: February 20, 2006, 06:10:54 PM »
texas I have to question your logic, the non Aba schools tend to make the legal field more of a joke then an honorable degree.  By your posts I see your at a T3 (not that impressive, yet WAY more impressive than a non-aba).  I do not get why you encourage people to continue their legal education online, non aba schools are not real law schools and to defend them makes no sense.  I agree you should make your own choice as to what education to get but a law degree is not a hobby and Aloha737 and you make it seem like it is.

I don't think that I've ever said that DL is the way to go...but there are some circumstances where a person may choose that option to enrich themselves, either personally or professionally.

In my case, I have a masters degree that was completed via DL. Now, this was a research degree, so I probably had more contact (almost daily by email) with my supervisor than I would have had in a regular setting. But the point is, it is fully accredited, and because of that work I have now been able to publish 2 articles in peer-reviewed journals. This in turn may be opening the doors to some T14 schools that I am trying to transfer into.

Now with law, DL is probably the worst choice available to 99% of the people that want a law degree...but for that 1% it might be the ideal choice (for whatever their reasons). I just think that while it is good to point out the limitations of DL, once someone has weighed that, there is no reason to harass them because you don't like their decision.

I know that thousands of people will be graduating from ABA schools this year, ranked in the bottom 1/4 of their class, and with 100-150K in debt...to me they all made the wrong choice (except for maybe those in the T14 schools). They are going to have crappy jobs, and be saddled with a tremendous debt load for years to come. I truly think that the majority of them will be miserable...but it was their choice to make.

I chose instead to take the free ride at a T3 to make sure I would survive - and now that I'm in the top 5%, I am weighing transferring up. Others might think that I was foolish not to attend a T1 school first...and in retrospect, maybe they would be right, but at my age, I couldn't risk that much debt without a strong class ranking, and that just wasn't guaranteed.

We all have to make decisions based on where we are, and where we want to go. I can't even remember what Aloha's reasons were, but what is important is that he has them. There's no point in degrading that decision simply because non-traditional law schools aren't as good traditional ones....

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