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Louisville / Re: Question for anyone who might know...
« on: November 06, 2005, 06:09:54 PM »
Hey, thanks for the help.  I sure do appreciate it.

What I'm wondering is, what are the most important factors they look at in transfer students.  GPA?  Ranking?  Situation?  Intentions after law school?

I've heard great things about Brandeis, and I've been up to visit the campus, although I've not visited the law school itself.  I've been by there a couple of times though.

Also, I want to know if I'll be able to qualify for financial aid if I transfer.  I was told by an acquaintance that, if a person transfers, she isn't able to qualify for aid for the first year after the transfer.  I would ask my own financial aid office, but it's a small school and I don't want to mention transfering in case it doesn't end up happening.  You understand what I mean.

I've already requested an app packet from Brandeis, and I'm still waiting for it to come in the mail.  If you can answer any of my questions, or if you know of someone who can, I would greatly appreciate it.  You are most helpful.

Hey and, that other thing you mentioned about throwing my name into the hat would be a great thing too...
:)

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General Board / Re: Missing 60%-75% of class. Chance to do well on exams?
« on: November 06, 2005, 01:23:57 PM »
With most of my profs, attendance is mandatory.  If you miss more than 5 or 6 classes in a semester, you're automatically failed.  I take it your profs don't enforce any such rule?

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Louisville / Question for anyone who might know...
« on: November 06, 2005, 01:17:47 PM »
I'm a 1L at a 3rd-tier school and I'm seriously considering trying to transfer to Brandeis next fall.  My fiance lives in Louisville, and we'd like to be closer.  Is there anybody out there who has any knowledge about transfering to Brandeis?  I think my grades are going to be pretty good...I'm not having too much trouble with the "law school thang."  Any insight would be helpful and very appreciated.

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I agree with the advice giraffe and mud gave.  My only addition is that, if you insist upon writing something regarding "what being a lawyer is all about," that is somethig that YOU must decide for yourself.  None of us can tell you what the law means to you.

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General Board / Re: Best Professor Lines This Year
« on: November 04, 2005, 09:51:42 PM »
"sounds like you have a bad professor.  last i checked, all those things were illegal."

Wow. Perhaps I should've put it into context, but I thought it wasn't really necessary.  However, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Jeez...lighten up.

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General Board / Re: Bombed the 1st Exam
« on: November 03, 2005, 07:33:35 PM »
Thanks for the compliment re my avatar.  It's precisely what I feel like doing to my civ pro teacher at the end of each class.

Incidentally, my brain shuts down at Rule 12(b).

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General Board / Re: Bombed the 1st Exam
« on: November 03, 2005, 05:38:24 PM »
That's what I was wondering.  I'm still a month off of my first exam.

I did have a quiz in Civ Pro today.  I screwed the pooch on that one big time.

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Socratic Method / Re: Do u get called on once or more than once???
« on: November 03, 2005, 05:35:08 PM »
Regardless of what Socrates was, his teaching method is alive and well in almost every law school in America.  If you want to become a licensed attorney, chances are you will be confronted with the Socratic method, pederast or no.

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Socratic Method / Re: "I don't know"
« on: October 30, 2005, 07:23:23 PM »
"It's always better to BS than give up."

It really just depends on the teacher and his or her personality.

A few weeks ago in Legal Analysis, a guy was called on who was either not prepared or just hadn't read very closely.  Either way, he attempted to B.S. his way through the material.  The prof just went to another person and didn't come back to the guy.

Two days later, in the next L.A. class, the prof came in and says "Here's the deal.  I hate bullshitters.  If any of you attempt to waste my time by bullshitting me again, I will drop you a letter grade.  Not only that, you can expect to be called on for the next three class periods, and at that point you had BETTER be prepared."  He did go on to say that there was a difference between being obviously unprepared, and not knowing the answer.  He said it was better to admit that you don't know, rather than trying to fake it.  So I guess it just depends on the teacher.

Coincidentally, the guy who tried to bull him in the first place was called on for the next two class periods.  I haven't seen that guy around in two weeks.  I think he dropped.

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General Board / Preparing for Finals
« on: October 27, 2005, 06:31:09 PM »
This is for all of you who may be wondering why the hell you ever decided to attend this thing called "Law School."  I hope you'll get the enjoyment out of it that I did.  It was posted on another board by a poster named "Yerch."

"The thing they don't tell you about law school before you get there is that you are forced mandatorily to join the BIG club. The club of people who have suffered through law school.

Don't get me wrong. I love law school and am extremely happy with my decision to attend. But law school is a unique little beast. If a prof tells you specifically not to overstudy future interests you can expect future interests to make up 30% of your exam. Any time a prof says that their exam is all about reasoned analysis you know that it will be a straight up issue spotting nightmare that will allow no time whatsoever for analysis. If your school has only 700 students it will take two months from the time you register for classes until they inform you that you have officially been registered for none of them. They will create a mandatory online form to participate in fall recruiting and make it so that their firewall won't allow anyone to submit that form. They will schedule the workshop to inform you that preparing your materials for Fall Recruiting will take at least two weeks of solid effort exactly ten days before the first deadline. I could go on forever.

Are any of these things necessary? Absolutely not. They do it on purpose. It may even be subconscious on their part. But trust me that if you ever, even in the nicest of ways, suggest that there are simple solutions to any of these problems you will be greeted with an answer that always amounts to "This is law school now. I suffered through these things and now you have to as well." In other words "join the club." It is as if they believe that part of the lesson of law school involves subjecting you to a certain amount of unnecessary suffering.

In a way that may be true. Like I said, I love being in law school. 95% of the time it is like a dream come true. But that other 5% of the time I could take a blowtorch to the place and laugh as I did it. Wait until the first time you are in an intensely time pressured exam and discover that the same professor who has already warned he takes off big points for punctuation has printed off (or HAD printed off) half the exams with a typo so big it makes the very first question nearly impossible to figure out what he is talking about. Graded on a curve and half the class gets the correct question and half the class gets the wrong question (because he had copied another Civ Pro profs exam and changed the names in the hypo but forgotten to change them in the question - in case you were wondering). The rest of your natural born life may be altered by your performance on this exam and the sorry bastard who would gladly mark you down for a missed apostrophe didn't even proofread his own exam and his response to this is "Well, these things happen. I'm sure the mistake was spread evenly throughout the grade distribution." That's when your dreams begin to fill with visions of molotov cocktails, a part of your soul dies, and you know that finally you have begun to 'think like a lawyer.'"

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