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Current Law Students / Re: How to recover from my first final?
« on: August 03, 2005, 04:06:30 PM »
Thanks guys, that helps. I'll try to keep some perspective....

Current Law Students / How to recover from my first final?
« on: August 03, 2005, 11:44:08 AM »
Took my Crim Law final last night.
All in all, it blew, I think.
I feel like I did not have an opportunity to show what I had learned. The multiple choice section was very difficult, the shades of gray in the answers were almost indiscernible to me. He had told us weíd have to pick the best answer, that more than one would be right. I can honestly say that I am only sure of getting 5 of the 16 correct.

And the essay section had very little meat to it, it was just degrees of homicide, basically. What  about conspiracy, attempt, rape, felony-murder, accomplice liability? We didnít get to write about any of those. I learned so much and the final sucked.I wish we could have used our notes or outlines or something....
And at one point he told me Iíd do fine, that I Ďgot ití and should do well! And he said he wouldnít trick us, or test us on stuff we didnít study (which I guess he didn't...)And he was such a great professor. We loved him, he was so patient with us and so enthusiastic...
And I loved class!  I feel cheated somehow.
My grade is going to suck. I donít want to be an average student, I have to do things very well or else I beat myself up.
Like now.
I actually thought, going in, I might be one of the ones to pull an A out of this class. Iím just so disappointed in myself I could cry.
Sorry to run on.
Has anyone else ever felt this way?

Awesome. Thank you.

Many states (I don't know how many) base their criminal laws on the MPC. They may base some of their statutes on the MPC entirely or not at all. Because many students will come to the law school from different states and then return, the MPC is something they are interested in teaching. You will also find the same thing when you take Professional Responsibility. The class will be centered around the Model Rules of Professional Conduct because many states use that to fashion their own rules.
Thank you - that makes sense!
Soooo...if I can understand/apply what the MPC is defining, then I can better understand the intent of individual statutes?

Because that's what your professor wants.
Don't get caught up in whether you think it's a good way to teach criminal law. Your professor is going to test you on the Model Penal Code, so suck in your frustration and just do it.
And a 'welcome to the message board' to you too.
I'm not suggesting it's a bad teaching method. In fact, I quite like my professor and so far it's been a fascinating, enjoyable class. But recently I've gotten confused. I just want to understand what I am studying, and I thought if I had a frame of reference, it would help me.

Hello all, I am a freshly hatched 1L taking Criminal Law. It was making sense there for a while, but now I am truly confused. My professor is having us compare elements of statutes against the MPC definitions, in order to establish mens rea. I think. If the MPC is not law, then why are we doing this? I don't inderstand/know what the overarrching goal is here. Can anyone offer guidance?

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