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Law School Applications / Re: Three-way splitter?
« on: October 12, 2005, 03:39:43 PM »
At the elite schools, even students with only 1 score in the 170 range, may get dinged.  The numbers are only half the story.  WE, Personal Statements, Character, LOR etc matter.  So I don't think one can use LSN (self reported and suspect) to say that "even if the schools say they use higher they will undoubtedly only look at the average". That said, I think sometimes testers such as myslef with multiple LSAT scores raise a red flag.  Some adcoms will question the studnets judgment and then scour the app for grade trends or anything else that might single a pattern of poor judgment.  But then I have no hard facts, just inferences. 

If it's a large school like Georgetown, they could ,in fact, take only the higher score into accound.  If they admit 10 students with 160+174 combo it really is not going to affect their numbers. 



Some law schools say that they consider the higher LSAT score.  I don't believe it.  They have to average the score for the USNWR rankings and the ABA report.  Also anecdotal evidence has shown that people are generally treated like their scores were averaged.  You can write an addendum, but the 3.35/167 combination should probably be kept in your mind when choosing schools to apply to, not a 3.35 + some points for an addendum / 174 because they say they take the higher score. 



ya mahn since they are supposedly beholden to the rankings it would make sense that they would use the average in the admissions process

and if you're really cynical about things then maybe they just tell people they take the higher score so they can attract more unsuccessful applicants and they can lower their acceptance rate

but that's really, really cynical, isn't it ???


That would be pretty sadistic.  I wouldn't do that, at least under this username. 

I will qualify my statement by saying that they probably consider it, but it cannot by the fact that it needs to be averaged, replace the lower score no matter what they claim.

You know what, I've honestly never considered that fact.  I just know that a lot of posters LSD, LSN and on XOXO have been treated like an averaged score rather than the higher score, meaning there rate of acceptance was not noticeably higher than those who had their averaged score on one test. 



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Law School Applications / Re: Three-way splitter?
« on: October 12, 2005, 01:04:26 PM »
If it's a large school like Georgetown, they could ,in fact, take only the higher score into accound.  If they admit 10 students with 160+174 combo it really is not going to affect their numbers. 



Some law schools say that they consider the higher LSAT score.  I don't believe it.  They have to average the score for the USNWR rankings and the ABA report.  Also anecdotal evidence has shown that people are generally treated like their scores were averaged.  You can write an addendum, but the 3.35/167 combination should probably be kept in your mind when choosing schools to apply to, not a 3.35 + some points for an addendum / 174 because they say they take the higher score. 



ya mahn since they are supposedly beholden to the rankings it would make sense that they would use the average in the admissions process

and if you're really cynical about things then maybe they just tell people they take the higher score so they can attract more unsuccessful applicants and they can lower their acceptance rate

but that's really, really cynical, isn't it ???


That would be pretty sadistic.  I wouldn't do that, at least under this username. 

I will qualify my statement by saying that they probably consider it, but it cannot by the fact that it needs to be averaged, replace the lower score no matter what they claim.

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Law School Applications / Re: Three-way splitter?
« on: October 11, 2005, 07:36:07 PM »
Don't take it again.  You run the risk of getting a lower score than the 174.  Even a 170 would cheapen the 174.  The 14 point difference is quite substantial and with such a split more weight will be given to the latter number.  Of course there are the obvious schools that flat out state they look at higher score: GULC, northwestern, FSU etc. Then there are also schools such as IU, cornell, columbia that say there are certain times when they will consider the higher rather than the average.  Just write a straight addendum.  The sick excuse probably the most used, but what can you do if its the truth.  I sometimes wonder if people aren't better off just explaining they got too nervous, were over confident etc the first time around and realized how to attack the test the 2nd time.  

3.35 CGPA as per LSAC
LSAT: 160, 174

I take full blame for the first LSAT fiasco - I was sick and had an adverse reaction to my meds just days before and since I was completely broke at the time, I thought, what the hell, I can still get a 165-166 and won't lose my $115.  Well, I didn't and I didn't cancel the score so now I'm up sh*t creek without a paddle.

My GPA is low because of one year when I lost a family member, the other 3 years are a 3.63.

Are there any schools that look only at the higher LSAT score if your split is substantial enough or am I stuck with an average no matter what and better off retaking in December for the 3rd time, getting another 174 or so and biasing my average towards that score?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Need help deciding between UF and FSU
« on: October 11, 2005, 12:30:47 PM »
Why do you care about reputation in south florida, if you want to work in the capital?
FSU provides more networking opportunities throughout the year in Tally than UF would.  Most of your points about both schools are irrelevant to your vague desire to work in the capital.  pick whichever you are most comfortable with.  seems to me you have already made up your mind.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: I'm going out of my freaking mind
« on: October 10, 2005, 02:48:52 PM »
on the topic of interesting books re: Rwanda, if anyone's interested, Nigel Eltringham's, "Accounting for Horror: Post-Genocide Debates in Rwanda" is another good read that goes beyond the Western-incompetence and tutsi-vs-hutu debates. Its got a significant portion about the construction of both the identites, and most interestingly, methinks, is a bit about how those constructions are played out in international law.

thanks for the book rec.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: What Advanced Degree Should You Get? Quiz
« on: October 09, 2005, 02:02:34 PM »
Gah!  That thing wants me to go into management!  Seriously, I can't offhand think of a career that would make me more miserable...

Lawyer came in second, so I'm going to have to go for that.

Ha, I got President first, Lawyer second, Management third :-P Try the religion selector, that one is a blast.

the religion selector is messed.  Honestly 89% protestant liberal, then 79 Baha'i followed by 70% conservative protestant, 70%eastern orthodoxy and 70% roman catholic.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Today's random lyrics
« on: October 09, 2005, 03:18:35 AM »
What was it I saw in new york?
Iím not the same anymore
How will I hide these feelings inside
Call my girl on the phone
Neon lights shine bright
Taxi cabs glide by
Aeroplanes they fly, high up in the sky
Pretty girl says hi...
Whatís the worst job youíve had?
What do you read?
Whatís driving you mad?

Met the cigarette girl- took a note of her charms
But no cigar
Met the indie-cool queen
Took me out of the bar
And showed me the scene
My little girl I canít find
Sheís five hours behind
Itís the singer not the song
Somethingís gone wrong
Said the spider to the fly
Do I like this girl?
Itís such a big world
1 like the tone of her voice
I loved the sound of her voice

When I get back to london from outer space
Will it fall into place?
Iíll hold onto my smile
Find my girl in a while
Look myself in the face
Donít know what you see
Am I playing in your movie?
Youíre in my magazine
Are you talking to me?
Chickfactor
belle & sebastian lyrics

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Law School Applications / Re: Qualifying for loans/grants
« on: October 09, 2005, 03:07:57 AM »
if your income is above a certain level then the government will NOT subsidize your loan (meaning paying the interest for you while you are in law school).  But the maximum amount they can subsidize a year is around $9,000 a pretty pathetic figure IMO.  Regardless of your income, every student with a good enough credit score can borrow up to the full cost of her legal education. 

That includes living expenses, correct?

within reason.  the exact figure is usually calculated based on the law schools total cost of education.  Some loans will go a bit higher based on other factors.  i would think that many companies would expect your wife to work and offset some of the living expenses... but then perhaps others would not. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: I'm going out of my freaking mind
« on: October 09, 2005, 02:43:54 AM »
I also bought this book on the Rwanda genocide. I recommend it. there are more important things in life than standardized test scores.

interesting read.  after reading that  i decided to follow up with the Shake Hands with the Devil.  I'm about half way through the book.  I think after reading, i'll have a much more comprehensive view... the gen's book is also an interesting commentary on PTSD and military's previous inability to deal with such things...

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: What Advanced Degree Should You Get? Quiz
« on: October 08, 2005, 11:21:50 PM »
uhh i should get a phd in science (like chemistry engineering or math)???   what did i say?  perhaps the i couldn't study something that did not have right and wrong answers??

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