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U of Toledo / Re: Where are the best places for a law student to live?
« on: August 17, 2005, 08:04:25 PM »
On the off chance that one of the current UT students responds I have a couple questions....
First, the only prep work I've done so far is learning how to brief cases and going through a very basic book - "Acing Your First Year", is this adequate (not that I can do anything if it's not)?
Also, remembering back to orientation, how dressed up should I be - khaki shorts and polo, dockers and polo or button up, or something with a tie?

Sorry, I didn't see this post until after your first night of orientation.  Feel comfortable wearing casual clothes.  The individuals dressed up tonight will more then likely be wearing casual clothes Thursday and Friday.  It's warm outside and you'll be running to the book store, Rocket Hall, and the College of Law so you want to be comfortable and cool.

Knowing the basics of briefing is adequate.  They'll go over that in a mock classroom setting during orientation.

I'll be checking the boards so if anyone has any further questions then feel free to ask.

U of Toledo / Re: Where are the best places for a law student to live?
« on: August 16, 2005, 09:11:33 PM »
I would like to be close to the law school.  Any info would help.  Thank you.

For more information on off-campus housing visit The University of Toledo's Off Campus Website at  Most people live in the surrounding major apartment complexes.  You can review the list at

U of Toledo / Re: U of Toledo -- Schedules
« on: August 16, 2005, 07:36:29 PM »
I think it might be safe to assume that no one has been assigned to their "real" section of Legal Writing yet and they just pooled us altogether in section 10.  What are the odds that all of us are section 10 legitimately?

 - Comm-Law

Legal Writing & Research is a rather small class of students.  As you've correctly pointed out, the chances of everyone here being in the same class is slim.  If I remember correctly, your actual class section will be distributed at orientation. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: November 12, 2005, 09:28:17 PM »
Thanks for all that info.  How is it possible though to still graduate on time if you get put in the transitional program?  Do you have to take summer classes. I thought the summer after your 1L year you have to work, so you can find get a job for 2L summer.

The transitional program is designed so that you can graduate on time.  Typically, you will take a part-time load during your fall semester, switch to full-time during the winter semester, and make up two classes during the summer semester.  You'll be on track to graduate with your class if you decide to switch to full-time after your second semester and take the two summer classes.

Our career service stresses that it is NOT mandatory that you work during the summer after your first year.  The Dean and Career Service director suggest that if you are going to take a summer off then summer after first year is the only chance to do so.  So, a lot of people do take that opporunity to travel, get married, take classes, or what have you.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: November 01, 2005, 08:50:47 AM »

Hey, do you by any chance know how soon Toledo gets back to you about your application? I all of mine a few weeks ago. I figure it will be a while since I don't have stellar numbers...but should I expect to know either way by Christmas?  I really have know idea how this whole thing works. thanks for any insight. 

Toledo starts reviewing applications around mid-November/early December.  Once they start the process, it can be as quick as ten days.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: October 20, 2005, 11:58:05 AM »
I have to agree with the person who posted about Toledo and their drive-thru people.  That was absolutely right on.

To say that Ohio is the least desirable state in the United States or that Toledo is "crazy" is extreme.  The majority of Toledo is one large Suburbia. The University of Toledo was built within an existing city.  As a result, campus has not spread out around the area already allocated to it.  The growth of the university is limited because it surrounds existing neighborhoods.  One of these neighborhoods is the affluent Ottawa Hills.  Yes, downtown Toledo is within miles of the campus, however, it is really thought of as a separate area of the city.  I have only been down there to visit a museum or for dinner on the Docks.  Some students do choose to closer to the downtown area because the "urban" atmosphere appeals to them.  Most students, however, choose to live in apartment complexes filled with other students or professionals.  You are not likely to run into a "crackhead" jogging in one of the Metroparks, wandering around campus, sitting a Beaners, or in your apartment complex.

Honestly, Toledo is not my favorite city of all time but is tolerable for three years of my life.  On a plus side, Toledo is located relatively close to a lot of other major cities in Ohio and Michigan. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Toledo !!!???
« on: October 16, 2005, 02:29:06 PM »
This morning's paper has an article describing riots that broke out in Toledo.  There were some people demonstrating against a white supremacy group that was getting ready for a march.  The Mayor had to declare a state of emergency and there was violence, etc.  A bar was set on fire, stores and cars were vandalized and the police had quite a situation on their hands.  I think 65 people were arrested...

I'm wondering if this would be a good city to live and attend school in???

The situation with the white supremacy group occurred in the North Side of Toledo.  This is not near the law school nor is it where a majority of the student population lives so we were largely unaffected by it.  Do not base your decision on this particular incident because it is, as another posted stated, an isolated incident.   

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 14, 2005, 09:29:20 AM »
Am I the only one who's bothered by a school that changes part-time to full-time in the winter, to up their numbers? Seems pretty unethical to me.

The sole purpose of the transitional program at The University of Toledo is not to up our numbers.  It may have an effect on the U.S. News Ranking, however, that is not the main purpose of our program.  The transitional program is really there to help students who may face more difficulties adjusting to the work load ease into law school by giving them fewer classes but also allowing them to graduate on time.  As a current student, I have seen how beneficial the program is to those individual in it and support it whole wholeheartedly.  So, no, I do not think it is unethical for our school to give this opportunity to students that qualify for it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 13, 2005, 09:50:30 PM »
"I'm not even sure if they've moved in the rankings at all in the past couple years since the 3rd tier isn't ranked individually."

We were in the second tier last year.  Currently, we are at the top of the third tier.  As you mentioned, the third tier schools are not ranked, however, the individual schools receive notice as to how they were ranked.  Our Dean held a meeting after the new rankings were published and informed the student body of our ranking, why we dropped, and what they are doing to help the school climb back into the second tier.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Anyone else going to apply to Toledo?
« on: October 13, 2005, 09:32:45 PM »
"2. Do you know if UT ever has any open houses or anything? I've been trying to find out but have been told they only do it for admitted students."

Unfortunately, they do not have an open house.  You could schedule a tour and also sit in a class to get a feel for the environment.

"3. The part time day program doesn't sound that bad. Is it something you apply for or do they put you in it?"

You cannot apply for the program.  The typically put individuals into the program who have a higher LSAT/lower GPA or vice versa.

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